I bet you can’t answer this question –> Where is the correct location of Zam-Zam?
If you don’t know then watch Dan Gibson’s video. He made a video on correct location of Zam-Zam .
Bro you said ”Even Ibn Ezra, the Jewish commentator knew that Zamzam was in Mecca and he also knew that this was the well that Ishmael and Hagar found.”
Certainly. In his commentary on Genesis 16:14, Ibn Ezra said: “Beāer Lachai means the well of him who will be alive next year. The well was so called because the Ishmaelites held the Hajj at this well. It is still in existence and is called the well of Zamzamā”.
“BEER-LAHAI. Beer lahai means the well of him who will be alive next year.23 Compare, ko le-chai (so to life next year) (I Sam. 25:6).24 The well was so called because the Ishmaelites held annual festivities at this well. It is still in existence and is called the well of zamum.”
You’re one of those people that after their idol got humiliated three times, you don’t know what to do anymore since your pagan cult is getting shred to pieces so the only thing left is to just go on a complete and utter denial mode and present everything backwards where you have to pretend sooooo hard that your crossdresser won the debate. Lol, even the comment section of the ibn Hammer Wood has like 75% talking about how tall ibn Hammer is and the rest throwing abstract ridicule at the sheikh and Islam without pointing out anything concrete which is a sign of defeat.
Everyone knows your idol got humiliated. Even you can’t be that stupid.
Even if I accept Ibn Ezra’s commentary how are you going to answer the claim that Zam-Zam is in Mecca because Ibn Ezra was born in 1089 and Gibson did his research in 21st century?
Moreover a question arises that in his commentary Ibn Ezra didn’t mentioned the name of place (this can be Mecca because Gibson told that Muslims came to Mecca in 727 AD and Ibn Ezra was born in 1089) where Zam-Zam is presesnt he simply said that ”The well was so called because the Ishmaelites held the Hajj at this well. It is still in existence and is called the well of Zamzamāā.
According to Gibson those things(Hajj) used to happen in Petra and maybe Ibn Ezra was talking about the time when Hajj and Zam -Zam used to happen in Petra.
Have you watched the videos on the channel I linked to? The are short videos and completely debunk the silly claim made by Gibson. The Petra theory is absurd and is based on cherry-picking reports from sources like Tabari’s Tarikh.
Please stop calling it “research” there is not one peer-reviewed study in agreement with Gibson, ONLY missionaries are parroting his work as that was the intent of his poor theory.
Yes Bro I watched the video but there was no video about Zam-Zam.
but I am asking you about Zam-Zam you can also refute Gibson’s claim, you can post a refutation in this comment section, am I right?
If not then you can ask Detective O’Wil to make a video on Zam-Zam.
@Van My friend,
The whole word is > Beer-lahai-roi
and it means> The Well of Him that Lives and Sees Me “Well of the Living One that Sees Me “Well of the Living God or, as some translate it, “The Well of the Vision of Life” Genesis 16
1 Samuel 25:6 Say to him: ‘Long life to you! Good health to you and your household! And good health to all that is yours!
The onus is not on us to prove Zam Zam is not in Mecca. The onus is on Gibson to prove that an entire religious group up and decided one day to change their holy city with no one objecting.
David wood defeated Sheikh Usman go and watch the debate on Davids channel.
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šš You people are a joke. Just a bunch of brainwashed zombies. What difference does it make to watch it on Wood’s channel?
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I bet you can’t answer this question –> Where is the correct location of Zam-Zam?
If you don’t know then watch Dan Gibson’s video. He made a video on correct location of Zam-Zam .
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šš¤£ Already you’re changing topics?
You do know that Dan Gibson is as stupid as you are, right? If you want to see how stupid he is, check out Detective O’Wil: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNC4-VGazZV1ZLuofEoy1jQ
Even Ibn Ezra, the Jewish commentator knew that Zamzam was in Mecca and he also knew that this was the well that Ishmael and Hagar found.
Now that this has been settled, why don’t you show one scholarly source that confirms Gibson’s revisionist nonsense? Just one. Go ahead.
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Bro you said ”Even Ibn Ezra, the Jewish commentator knew that Zamzam was in Mecca and he also knew that this was the well that Ishmael and Hagar found.”
Plz provide source?
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Certainly. In his commentary on Genesis 16:14, Ibn Ezra said: “Beāer Lachai means the well of him who will be alive next year. The well was so called because the Ishmaelites held the Hajj at this well. It is still in existence and is called the well of Zamzamā”.
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@ Debator
Here is the commentary:
“BEER-LAHAI. Beer lahai means the well of him who will be alive next year.23 Compare, ko le-chai (so to life next year) (I Sam. 25:6).24 The well was so called because the Ishmaelites held annual festivities at this well. It is still in existence and is called the well of zamum.”
https://www.sefaria.org/Genesis.16.14?lang=bi&with=Ibn%20Ezra&lang2=en
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bro I have one question what does this mean? what does this statement has to do anything with Qibla being in mecca?
”the major axis of the Mosque in Sanaa is āparallelā to that of the Kaaba in Mecca” (and it has miniature kaaba inside.)
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Wanna discuss?
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Yes I wanna discuss
what does this statement has to do anything with Qibla being in mecca?
āthe major axis of the Mosque in Sanaa is āparallelā to that of the Kaaba in Meccaā (and it has miniature kaaba inside.)
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You’re one of those people that after their idol got humiliated three times, you don’t know what to do anymore since your pagan cult is getting shred to pieces so the only thing left is to just go on a complete and utter denial mode and present everything backwards where you have to pretend sooooo hard that your crossdresser won the debate. Lol, even the comment section of the ibn Hammer Wood has like 75% talking about how tall ibn Hammer is and the rest throwing abstract ridicule at the sheikh and Islam without pointing out anything concrete which is a sign of defeat.
Everyone knows your idol got humiliated. Even you can’t be that stupid.
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“….there was no video about Zam-Zam.
but I am asking you about Zam-Zam you can also refute Gibsonās claim….”
Gibson’s claim about Zamzam is tied to his theory about Petra isn’t it?
If yes then obviously we’re gonna need a basis to move on.
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Ah for the Love of God….misclicked….sorry Atlas
..glad to see you around tho
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@ QB
Are people really debating water is the basis for all life nowadays?
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I guess so. What a world we live in. š
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Even if I accept Ibn Ezra’s commentary how are you going to answer the claim that Zam-Zam is in Mecca because Ibn Ezra was born in 1089 and Gibson did his research in 21st century?
Moreover a question arises that in his commentary Ibn Ezra didn’t mentioned the name of place (this can be Mecca because Gibson told that Muslims came to Mecca in 727 AD and Ibn Ezra was born in 1089) where Zam-Zam is presesnt he simply said that ”The well was so called because the Ishmaelites held the Hajj at this well. It is still in existence and is called the well of Zamzamāā.
According to Gibson those things(Hajj) used to happen in Petra and maybe Ibn Ezra was talking about the time when Hajj and Zam -Zam used to happen in Petra.
Can you shed some light on this question?
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Have you watched the videos on the channel I linked to? The are short videos and completely debunk the silly claim made by Gibson. The Petra theory is absurd and is based on cherry-picking reports from sources like Tabari’s Tarikh.
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@ Debator
Please stop calling it “research” there is not one peer-reviewed study in agreement with Gibson, ONLY missionaries are parroting his work as that was the intent of his poor theory.
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“Gibson told that Muslims came to Mecca in 727 AD”
Basis?
“According to Gibson those things(Hajj) used to happen in Petra”
Basis?
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Yes Bro I watched the video but there was no video about Zam-Zam.
but I am asking you about Zam-Zam you can also refute Gibson’s claim, you can post a refutation in this comment section, am I right?
If not then you can ask Detective O’Wil to make a video on Zam-Zam.
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What is Gibson’s claim? What basis does it have when the whole Petra claim is already debunked as the videos show?
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āā¦.there was no video about Zam-Zam.
but I am asking you about Zam-Zam you can also refute Gibsonās claimā¦.ā
Gibsonās claim about Zamzam is tied to his theory about Petra isnāt it?
If yes then obviously weāre gonna need a basis to move on.
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@Van My friend,
The whole word is > Beer-lahai-roi
and it means> The Well of Him that Lives and Sees Me “Well of the Living One that Sees Me “Well of the Living God or, as some translate it, “The Well of the Vision of Life” Genesis 16
1 Samuel 25:6 Say to him: ‘Long life to you! Good health to you and your household! And good health to all that is yours!
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@ Debator
The onus is not on us to prove Zam Zam is not in Mecca. The onus is on Gibson to prove that an entire religious group up and decided one day to change their holy city with no one objecting.
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In short the petra theory is a crackpot conspiracy theory that only white supremacist retarded Christians wooukd buy into.
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