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  1. foued190

    Salam aleykoum brothers,what do you think of the arguments of some Christians that the the violence of the OT Testament must be read in the degree of a typological reading and not liberalist as 1 Cor 10-11 mentions ? So according to them, the violence in the OT is not literal .

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    1. Walaikumsalam 😺

      “OT Testament must be read in the degree of a typological reading and not liberalist as 1 Cor 10-11 mentions ? So according to them, the violence in the OT is not literal”

      1 Corinthians 10-11 (and theological typology in general) doesn’t deny literalism (unless that it is clear enough to a required degree) otherwise by this logic what is what is not literal in the OT would be totally arbitrary

      Take the sacrificial lamb in the OT for example, it is a literal historical practice but It’s also taken as a typology for the crucifixion

      What Paul is alluding to here is that christians at that time had the “exact” same blessings (that he mentioned) that the israelites had though in a different degree/spectrum (another example of typology) but he’s warning them to not do the same mistakes the israelites did and to learn from those mistakes. There’s nothing that denies a literal reading.

      And lol as a side note considering that the violence in the OT is shown as something moral and ordered by god (nothing evil), I’d consider it a positive typology as it signifies victory for god or the Israelites…so uhh where can we start?

      1. Maybe it’s a typology for Christ’s victory over death

      2. Victory over sin

      3. Bla bla bla

      It gets more fun!

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      1. Max

        Hi bro can you debunk ‘karma’ hindus use this a lot.
        It is basically ‘you reap what you sow’ but a question arises if karma is true then why weren’t warlords like hitler,Genghis khan and others suffer? they simply died or they were killed.
        If we use karma in this condition then they(warlords) weren’t judged!
        But Allah tells in Quran all will be accountable on the day of judgement and Allah tells that
        [Quran 14:32] “”Do not think ˹O Prophet˺ that Allah is unaware of what the wrongdoers do. He only delays them until a Day when ˹their˺ eyes will stare in horror””

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      2. Max

        What I meant to say that is what are your thoughts on karma?
        and our Islamic view of punishment is better than Karma.

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      3. Sup bro,

        There’s really nothing to debunk…as per the concept either you

        1) get punished in this life itself

        2) or your next birth/births, for example the roach you killed yesterday could’ve been Stalin

        3) or hell

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      4. But sure we can argue that if the bloke is supposed to get punished in his next birth then that’s not really a satisfying or even justified punishment I’d argue as the person has no idea about his previous birth or previous identity or what he did, he’s just another person in another body…

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  2. Supporter of Ahmad bin 'Abd-Allah peace and blessings upon him

    @sup babe
    “according to them, the violence in the OT is not literal .”
    So umm I have 1 question. What is ordering the killing of women and children supposed to stand for exactly?????

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    1. “Muhammad freed a slave Zaid bin Harith and adopted him as his son thereby he was thence known as Zaid bin Muhammad. Muhammad arranged the married of Zaid with his cousin sister Zainab bint Jaish. However when Muhammad discovered that Zainab is just too good then he obliged Zaid to abdicate Zainab in favor of Muhammad. The Quran 33:37 has connotation of this event.”

      Stew already spoke about it with you *multiple* times

      “Muhammad’s Ghazwa’s against Banu Quraiza, Banu Mustaliq and Ghajwa on Jewish fort of Khaiber are explicit testimony of the fact without gainsaying that these raids were in effect rape raids.”

      Quotes, references?

      “In most of the cases women captives were raped within hours of the murder of her husband, father, brother and other male kins men.”

      Proof?

      “When Rehana refused but her fate did not change and she became personal sex slave of Muhammad.”

      Whether she became his wife or slave is unclear, but the author makes it seem like she was raped etc…we already touched this subject multiple times in the past

      “Safiya was dragged in to the tent of Muhammad on the same night, where she was violated. ”

      Why assume she was raped?

      “While she was being dragged to the tent of Muhammad she passed from that place where amputated head of her husband was lying in a pool of blood. Her brothers were already murdered.”

      It was done by Bilal ibn Rabah (May Allah be pleased with him) and the Prophet pbuh rebuked him for that

      “Muslims were hesitant to rape captive women in front of captive women’s husbands. They ask Muhammad for clarification. Muhammad replied that they should go ahead with rape act as the husbands of slave women have already lost right over their wives the moment they have become slaves”

      Assuming again

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      1. Max

        Christian apologist tried to defend the awful commands in the Bible of infanticide and child murder…by the Islamic belief that Allah (swt) sent a flood to kill the people of Noah (pbuh), which means that some babies and children were likely killed.
        How to respond to this?

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      2. Well they were warned that a flood was coming….remissness led to the death of the children

        Plus it’s not the same as using humans to kill innocents, humans are supposed to follow a moral code even the Bible is clear that innocents shouldn’t be killed….yet…..yikes

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      3. stewjo004

        @ Max

        Nobody denies God takes life but there is a vast difference between a natural disaster and ordering regular humans to stab infants and children.

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  3. Supporter of Ahmad bin 'Abd-Allah peace and blessings upon him

    @suo babe
    Im sorry its just that I overthink and I was having a crisis. How do we respond to those who say that historians simply made up alot of events in order to depict Muhammad peace and blessings upon him in a better light? Like in the case of zaynab or safiyya may Allah be pleased with them?

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    1. @Mishal

      OmG why you calling me babe? 😱

      Jk 😂

      No need to say sorry bro

      Btw you’re still working on your novel? What are some new ideas you thought of?

      “How do we respond to those who say that historians simply made up alot of events in order to depict Muhammad peace and blessings upon him in a better light? Like in the case of zaynab or safiyya may Allah be pleased with them?”

      That’s just an assumption (mainly from western secular scholarship) you don’t need to respond or even bother your mind with

      And lol how do they know about the so called “negative” stuff in the first place if the “historians” were biased and keen to fabricate when they could simply hide it? The irony

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  4. “in terms of what”

    *And whom.

    Reason I put historian between parentheses is because they tend to include Bukhari etc as well in same category

    Anyway it’s just an assumption you shouldn’t bother your mind

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  5. Supporter of Ahmad bin 'Abd-Allah peace and blessings upon him

    @alone
    “OmG why you calling me babe? 😱”
    Babe meaning a baby.
    Yes you giant baby
    “No need to say sorry Bro”
    Sorry is my language
    “Btw you’re still working on your novel? What are some new ideas you thought of?”
    Its not really a novel more of a collection of ideas. New ideas…. Aaaahhh I’m kinda all over the place. It went from “hey what would a future caliphate would look like” to including literally all the dimensions in the all dimensions wiki { look it up} and even fricking characters with hax abilities. Lol. Also even cosmic entities, demons, and even including every single physics and universe models tailored to fit with in islam- I’m losing my mind with this fictional universe lol. IT’S NO LONGER THE WHEEL OF TIME OF SCI FI, IT’S THE END ALL BE ALL OF ALL OF FICTION…..Jazakallahu khair dude or……. DUDETTE

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  6. Supporter of Ahmad bin 'Abd-Allah peace and blessings upon him

    @ Alone
    No but I heard its pretty good and scientifically accurate. What about it?

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      1. Max

        “One day the sage Atri was performing tapas with his wife Anasuya. Brahma, Visnu, and Siva came and offered him a boon, but Atri remained silent, meditating. Then the three gods went to Anasuya. Siva had his linga in his hand, Visnu was full of erotic feeling, and Brahma was beside himself with desire, saying to Anasuya, ‘Make love with me or I will die.’ When she heard this coarse speech, Anasuya made no reply,for, although she feared the anger of the gods, she was true to her husband. But they were overcome with delusion, and they raped her by force. Then she became angry and she cursed Siva to be worshipped as a linga, Brahma to be worshipped in the form of a head, and Visnu to be worshipped as feet, in order to ridicule them all, and she cursed them all to be reborn as her sons. Because of this, Siva was reborn as Durvasas.”
        [Bhavisya Purana 3:4:17:67-78]

        Does it means that Anasuya killed trimurti? because it is mentioned that they were reborn as her sons. Hindu texts say that shiva has no end or beginning.

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      2. I mean that after the curse they willingly became her sons through avatar incarnation, upholding curses is an important principle in hinduism even among gods though they (at least the Trimurti for sure) have the power to reject them

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  7. Astroboy

    Please answer my question.
    What if the rapist is a muslim and the innocent girl is a non muslim? Wouldn’t she go to hell as she had done shirk whereas the man might go hell but eventually go to heaven as he had
    believed in Allah.

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  8. Astroboy

    What is the punishment of rape? is it that rapist will be killed or the punishment of rape is same as that of zina, which is stoning if the perpetrator is married, and one hundred lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.

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    1. stewjo004

      @Astroboy

      The answer to your first question is yes the Muslim would have a chance of eventually going to heaven assuming he had the tiniest bit of fith in his heart. (Note though the limbs reflect what is in one’s heart so for him to commit such a crime means his heart is hardened and diseased.)

      As for your second question, it depends on how the crime was committed just like in common law.

      If the person used a weapon like a gun or a knife during the crime it gets an “upgrade” to banditry (i.e declaring war on God and His Messenger) which carries the harshest penalties in all the Shariah:

      1. Execution
      2. Crucifixion
      3. Hand and foot amputated on the opposite side
      4. Banishment

      If no weapon was used then yes we would from a Shariah standpoint treat it like zina which would be lashes if the perp was unmarried, and stoning if they were married.

      The final note here is this is not all a judge or the government can do in Islam as we have only been discussing hudood (punishments clearly stated by the Quran or Sunnah). We also have what are called “tazir” which is basically any addons the judge wants to do to discourage said behavior

      https://jeddahpcg.dfa.gov.ph/hadd-or-huddud-and-tazir-crimes

      So say we have a rape kit example that clearly shows she was raped but we don’t have four witnesses to stone him. The judge can still have him thrown into prison because of tazir even though the perp might have avoided the huddod punishment of stoning.

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  9. Tiyaan

    Assalamu alaikum @stewjo004,

    I remember you compiled a list of Christian wars and atrocities in one of the BloggingTheology articles. Do you have them so that I can study as well as use it in my debates ?

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    1. stewjo004

      @ Tiyaan

      Walakum salam wa rahma tu lahi wa barakatu

      Ahhhhh….I vaguely remember this, an oldie but a goodie. I don’t remember exactly the article as I was debating in the comments I think but this Wikipedia should help get you started as they have a lot and this new peace crap they’re talking about is recent because they fell out of power to secularism:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_violence

      If you would like pics
      https://www.badnewsaboutchristianity.com/gh4_churchwar.htm

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  10. Max

    SAHIH Bukhari – Vol. 9, Book 92, Number 460 ‘The people of the Book used to read the Torah in Hebrew and then explain it in Arabic to the muslims. Allah’s apostle said to the muslims, “do not believe the people of the Book, nor disbelieve them, but say, we believe in allah and whatever is revealed to us, and whatever is revealed to you”
    This hadith is about which torah, the one Jews use or the one which was revealed to Moses(pbuh)?

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  11. Max

    The story of Moses” mother hiding her infant son in a basket of rushes caulked with pitch, and entrusting him to the river, is also adapted from an older Middle Eastern story.

    The original river was the Euphrates, the role of Pharaoh’s daughter was played by the goddess Ishtar, and the child grew up to be the Mesopotamian king, Sargon of Akkad. In ancient times rivers were thought of as the embodiment of gods, so in the original tale the mother was entrusting her child to a deity, not abandoning him to the elements. The story of Moses, which may be found in Exodus 2:1-10, dates from about 1,000 years after that of Sargon.

    Is this story found in Quran or hadith?

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    1. stewjo004

      @ Max

      Yes, Musa(as)being cast into the river is in the Quran (Q. 20:37, 28:7) With that being said:

      1. We don’t actually know when Musa (as) lived. Sargon is thought to have lived in 2334–2284 BCE and we assume Musa(as) is in the 1300s

      2. The story of Sargon’s birth is vastly different in details and content to Musa’s(as) and simply involves them both being put in a basket

      3. Ignoring all this and more importantly this story of Sargon being thrown in the river and take by Ashtar etc was created in the 700s BCE (i.e. over 500 years after Musa’s(as) commonly reported time frame thus no reason to assume the story was stolen from Sargon and was simply attributed to him)

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  12. Max

    I posted a video link, but I can’t see it in comments. When I posted video link in another comment it showed ‘Duplicate comment detected’

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  13. “The story of Moses” mother hiding her infant son in a basket of rushes caulked with pitch, and entrusting him to the river, is also adapted from an older Middle Eastern story…”

    Unlikely, the oldest reference to the legend about Sargon dates to the Neo-Assyrian period, pretty sure the one about Moses already existed in Jewish oral traditions way before that

    “Is this story found in Quran or hadith?”

    7 We inspired Moses’ mother, saying, ‘Suckle him, and then, when you fear for his safety, put him in the river: do not be afraid, and do not grieve, for We shall return him to you and make him a messenger.’ 8 Pharaoh’s household picked him up––later to become an enemy and a source of grief for them: Pharaoh, Haman, and their armies were wrongdoers––9 and Pharaoh’s wife said, ‘Here is a joy to behold for me and for you! Do not kill him: he may be of use to us, or we may adopt him as a son.’ They did not realize what they were doing. 10 Soon after, Moses’ mother felt a void in her heart––if We had not strengthened it to make her one of those who believe, she would have revealed everything about him––11 and she said to his sister, ‘Follow him.’ So she watched him from a distance, without them knowing. 12 We had ordained that he would refuse to feed from wet nurses. His sister approached them and said, ‘Shall I tell you about a household which could bring him up for you and take good care of him?’ 13 We restored him to his mother in this way, so that she might be comforted, not grieve, and know that God’s promise is true, though most of them do not know. [Quran 28:7-13]

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  14. Astroboy

    John 1:1[NIV] “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”

    Can we say that according to this verse there are 2 gods? because it says ‘word was with god and word was god’

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    1. Supporter of Ahmad bin 'Abd-Allah peace and blessings upon him

      @ Astroboy
      Imo you could interpret that to mean the words of God are his attribute or something. Yo shaad what’d ya think?

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      1. Sorry for not writing much, I’m just having one hell of a headache right now I’ll just summarize what I know

        1.We can say that but It’s very unlikely that John would be implying this.

        2. 2 ways that verse from the anonymous book is interpreted

        3. The Trinitarian interpretion is very improbable as well imo taking John’s overall christology into account

        3. The greek for “Word” is “Logos”, there are many definitions for it from a Jewish standpoint, one of them is “Plan” which is part of God’s “Divine thoughts” ergo unitarians make the equation that

        Word/Logos=”Plan”=Divine thoughts=God ergo “Word is God”

        So we have Logos on 2 spectra in John

        (i) God’s “direct” thoughts
        (ii)The *manifestation* of God’s thoughts

        So as per Unitarians John 1:1 refers to (i) and on 1:14 (as well as other references to Jesus as the logos) it refers to (ii) ergo only God’s “divine thought” can be referred as one with God ergo God Himself and not the physical manifestations of it

        As per them we’re all the logos of God, about the same as (ii) but Jesus is the only one referred as the logos in the New testament for emphasis as he was/will always be a particularly special and superior one compared to the others

        4. The NWT and JWs interprets it in another way which I favour both for christological and grammatical reasons.

        To simplify and summarize it “Logos” is interpreted more as *some sort* of personal name for Jesus.

        The sentence construction of John 1:1c in greek is like this

        “god was the word”

        “god” here is written as an Anarthrous Predicate Nominative, This type of construction is very common in the New Testament even in John and all of them are translated as indefinite i.e with the indefinite article (“a” boy, “a” girl, “a” bird)

        John 4:19
        Interlinear: prophet are you

        “The woman said to him, ‘Sir, I see that you are a prophet.’” (NRSV)

        John 6:70

        διάβολός ἐστιν

        DIABOLOS ESTIN

        Interlinear: devil is

        “Jesus answered them, ‘Did I not choose you, the twelve? Yet one of you is a devil.’” (NRSV)

        John 8:34

        δοῦλός ἐστιν

        Interlinear: slave is

        “Jesus answered them, ‘Very truly, I tell you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin.’” (NRSV)

        John 18:37b

        Interlinear: king am I

        “Jesus answered, ‘You say that I am a king.’” (NRSV)

        John 8:48

        Interlinear: Samaritan are you

        “The Jews answered him, ‘Are we not right in saying that you are a Samaritan and have a demon?’” (NRSV)

        There are many more from John that I’m too lazy to post but you get the point, if every anarthrous predicate is John can be translated with the indefinite article and is best conveyed in English grammatically in the indefinite sense then why not John 1:1c?

        i.e

        Interlinear: god was the word

        Translation “The word was a god”

        Which would distinguish theos in John 1:1c from Theos in John 1:1b

        Would it imply polytheism as per OT standards? Well angels and judges are called “gods” too, John 1:1c could be alluding to jesus as “a god” in the same same spectrum as them and not as Almighty God (which explains the significance of the grammatical construction and the indefinite rendering)

        5. At the end of the day Muslims shouldn’t care about what that historically useless book written by an anonymous guy says

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    2. stewjo004

      @ Astroboy

      Good catch. Depends how you read the verse it can be read either:

      1. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God”

      2. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was “A” God”

      Imo the second reading is more accurate because the writers of “John” thought that Isa(as) was a pre-existent semi-divine being that was subservient to God like the Holy Spirit. This also flows with all the people called “gods” in the NT

      21On the appointed day, Herod donned his royal robes, sat on his throne, and addressed the people. 22And they began to shout, “This is the voice of a god, not a man!” (Acts 12:21-22)

      11When the crowds saw what Paul had done, they lifted up their voices in the Lycaonian language: “The gods have come down to us in human form!” 12 Barnabas they called Zeus, and Paul they called Hermes, because he was the chief speaker. (Acts 14:12)

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      1. Mikail the first of his name, the protector of his people

        @stew
        Is the Greek word for god or gods meaning the same as in Arabic? Like that ilah means a thing that is worshipped and is believed to hold power independently of anyone.

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      2. *Generally* In the New Testament and the LXX, when Theos refers to the True God it has a definite article

        Ho Theos
        The God

        Without it it refers to “minor gods” or pagan ones, there are a few exceptions which are grammatical in nature i.e the definite article isn’t really needed in some cases and it can be implied through context depending on what we’re talking about

        “The use of prepositions, possessive … pronouns, and the genitive case also tend to make a word definite. At such times, even if the article is not used, the object is already distinctly indicated.” – p. 137, Dana and Mantey Grammar

        The general and widest usage of it (Theos) is in the *non-prepositional* nominative case or call it the default case where no exceptions of grammar which restricts the *written* usage of articles applies (like the one I mentioned) and everytime for the True God it is used with the article and when used without it implies someone/something else

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      3. Damn reminds me I have to compile a list one day, if someone wants any example to the distinctive use and non-use of the article then let me know I’ll take some time to make a list

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  15. Supporter of Ahmad bin 'Abd-Allah peace and blessings upon him

    @ alone
    Also the story of musa alaiyhissalaam is different in that later he doesn’t become a king unlike in the story of sargon. It has different themes, more details, etc. Just because two stories have similar events doesnt mean its always have the same origin or the older one is the source.
    “In ancient times rivers were thought of as the embodiment of gods, so in the original tale the mother was entrusting her child to a deity, not abandoning him to the elements.”
    I found this to be interesting as in the Quranic version, the action of the mother of musa alaiyhissalaam you can interpret to mean to trust the decree of Allah. While the river is interpreted by the pagans to be the embodiment of the gods or assign a deity to it, in the Islam its interpreted to mean the decree of Allah so its not literally Allah or anything like that. The pagans believe very thing to be the actions of a pantheon of deities, we Muslims believe that the phenomena of nature to be the manifestations of Allah’s actions not in substance but in symbolism, etc.

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  16. Max

    I have read on Internet that “”the fetus which is 16 weeks can be regarded as human being because of ensoulment. It follows from this that one is authorized to refer to fetus which is 16 weeks or more as human being.”‘
    If a fetus of 16 weeks becomes a living organism then abortion during first trimester(12weeks) shouldn’t be a problem? but ISLAM QA said abortion is haram if there is no danger to life of mother or baby or it is haram if someone doesn’t want to raise a child or if someone doesn’t have enough means to raise a child. It is only acceptable if birth can cause death of baby or mother or both.

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    1. stewjo004

      @ Max

      There is some scholarly difference of opinion on the topic, but what you’re referring to is abortions as means of birth control (so not wanting to raise the child due to poverty, difficulty etc) this is haram because of the ayah:

      Tell them: “Come on up. I will tell you what your Lord made forbidden to you. Do not worship others with Him and honor your parents, do not kill your children as a result of being poor,” I am the One that provides for you all… (6:151)

      So even though the soul wasn’t breathed into it yet it would still be your child so to speak forming and you killed it thus violating the command. And Allah hu alim.

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  17. Captain United states of America

    Dan Gibson said that Qibla was in petra because early mosques faced Petra.
    We also know that Mosques in north-western Africa face towards South Africa.
    We can use his mosque facing argument against him by saying that if we use his theory of mosques facing qibla then Qibla according to north-western mosques is in South Africa which will dismantle his claim of Qibla in Petra.

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  18. Striker

    @Top Gun
    Dr.Zakir Naik said ‘Muhammad(saw) is mentioned in vedas and other hindu scriptures’, do you believe that everything he said is true?

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      1. My concubine's favourite

        @max
        Brother let’s focus on disproving their polytheism first. We shouldn’t worry about prophecies for now as we already have plenty of material to prove that.

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      2. “How can we prove to a hindu that Muhammad(saw) is foretold in Vedas?”

        I haven’t read much on this except some of Zakir’s vedic arguments

        The vedas (except the atharveda which is about rituals) are hymns, Zakir takes a lot of stuff out of context (pertaining to the topic) due to him ignoring the basic concept of the sukta

        Even if we make some sort of connection it would be pretty loose and unconvincing, one of his main arguments is the word narasama (praiseworthy), in other parts of the vedas it is explicitly used for deities even if we take a lone hymn with no deity mentioned in the sentence (tho it’s clear from the sukta or the context itself that it is referring to a deity) it would still be a really unconvincing argument as ***contextually*** it could as well refer to any of the deities who were ascribed the same adjective

        There are also multiple places where he mistranslates the sanskrit due to phonetic fallacy sometimes to the point of making verbs into names (even if we let it slip the context of the sentence often contradicts what he’s implying)

        If there’s one argument which has convinced some hindus then it is the kalki avatar one and idk if Zakir ever used it…the first person to put it forth was Pandit Ved Prakash and I haven’t read about it yet

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  19. Website

    Can we say this:
    First human were like newborn babies. Like we teach babies what is good and what is bad, in the same way there was someone who taught first humans what is good and what is bad.

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      1. Max

        How can I refute hindus who say that Nikah is only a contract(in a bad way) but Hindu marriages
        are joining of heart of two lovers and it is for 7 lives.
        Can you please tell me something about forced marriages of hindu girls according to their scriptures.

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      2. “How can I refute hindus who say that Nikah is only a contract(in a bad way) but Hindu marriages
        are joining of heart of two lovers and it is for 7 lives.”

        Lol nothing to refute, that’s just an argument from emotion, why only “two” lovers tho? Krishna had 16,108

        “…joining of heart of two lovers and it is for 7 lives.”

        Awwwww so much love, melts my heart…

        Narada Smriti 12.94 Let not a husband show love to a barren woman, or to one who gives birth to female children only, or whose conduct is blamable, or who constantly contradicts him; if he does (have conjugal intercourse with her), he becomes liable to censure (himself).

        Manu Smriti 9.81 A barren wife may be superseded in the eighth year, she whose children (all) die in the tenth, she who bears only daughters in the eleventh, but she who is quarrelsome without delay.

        Yajnavalkya Smriti verse 73 “The liquor drinker, the diseased, the cunning, the barren, the killer of wealth, the unpleasant spoken, who bears female children should be superseded, so also (one) who hates people.”

        Pure love unless your wife bears daughters only….soooooo romantic ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

        “Can you please tell me something about forced marriages of hindu girls according to their scriptures.”

        Devi Bhagavatam 6.22.31-36 “…The girl must accept him to whom the father betrothes. The girl is under every circumstances dependent. Never do they get any independence…”

        Manu Smriti 5.151 Him to whom her father may give her, or her brother with the father’s permission, she shall obey as long as he lives, and when he is dead, she must not insult (his memory)

        Notice it doesn’t mention anything about the daughter’s permission anywhere or whether she has the power to independently decide

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      3. stewjo004

        @ Max

        To add to Top’s argument the basic question is so what? Marriage by its very nature is a social contract period so that whole argument is stupid. Furthermore, if the married couple dies, they are joined for eternity in never-ending bliss in Jannah as opposed to their finite “7 lives”. So like always:

        #kuffarareretarded

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      4. Max

        Brother/sister what are your thoughts on authenticity of Ramayana and mahbharata?

        There are many articles on internet which say that Archaeologists found objects which are from Mahabharata era.

        Hindus also mention names of certain places,valleys,mountains,temples which are told in ramayana and mahabharat and they say presence of these places and temples prove that ramayana and mahabharata are true.

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      5. “There are many articles on internet which say that Archaeologists found objects which are from Mahabharata era.”

        “Hindus also mention names of certain places,valleys,mountains,temples which are told in ramayana and mahabharat and they say presence of these places and temples prove that ramayana and mahabharata are true.”

        Or maybe they’re just myths built around historical places and mythicization of historical events? Smh

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      6. “…mythicization of historical events”

        Just to clarify as an informative point for those interested, the reason I’m giving it a ***lower*** historical ***layer*** is due to the objects that were discovered around the time the mahabharata was supposedly written (speculation in scholarship is a big gap of a millenium btw) which may point out to a period of warfare in the region

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      7. Max

        Can you tell me about contradictions and mistakes in Gita?Hindus use this book a lot and now they are abandoning Vedas and Puranas.Some hindus said that Gita is the only religious book of Hinduism.
        Some hindus even say that in Hindusim we are free to choose which book we want to follow.

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      8. stewjo004

        @ Max

        Well for one if they’re picking and choosing whatever they want then what is the point of their religion? They be no better than the Jews whom Allah criticizes sarcastically saying so you believe in parts of the Scripture and not others. I don’t know a lot about the culture of the area but as an outsider looking in I think they know their religion is trash and the root is really just nationalism but Allah hu alim.

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      9. “Some hindus **said** that Gita is the only religious book of Hinduism”

        On which basis?

        “Some hindus even say that in Hindusim we are **free to choose** which book we want to follow.”

        On which basis?

        Like how do you even do that when every secondary texts outside the vedas including the Gita acknowledge the vedas as divine? How can you toss out the divine?

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      1. Max

        Do vedas promote sati and Niyog?
        I was debating a hindu, I quoted verse which allow sati from Garun Purana and commentary of Swami Prabhupada on Śrīmad Bhāgavatam and then Hindu replied with some verses from Atharvaveda such as Atharvaveda 9.5.28 , 9.5.27 , 18.3.1 and he said these are against sati.

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      2. Max

        **Forgot to mention this in my comment.
        Does this verse promote Niyog?
        Rig Veda 10.18.8 Rise, woman, (and go) to the world of living beings : come, this man near whom thou sleepest is lifeless: beget children from this appointed husband the suitor who took thee by the hand.

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      3. “Do vedas promote sati and Niyog?”

        Not sati but Niyog

        “I was debating a hindu, I quoted verse which allow sati from Garun Purana and commentary of Swami Prabhupada on Śrīmad Bhāgavatam and then Hindu replied with some verses from Atharvaveda such as Atharvaveda 9.5.28 , 9.5.27 , 18.3.1 and he said these are against sati.”

        Too lazy to check but he seems to take the vedas as authority over secondary texts, there’s no point in debating about sati if what he says is true

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      4. “Forgot to mention this in my comment.
        “Does this verse promote Niyog?
        Rig Veda 10.18.8 Rise, woman, (and go) to the world of living beings : come, this man near whom thou sleepest is lifeless: beget children from this *******appointed husband****** the suitor who took thee by the hand.”

        “Appointed husband” is the term normally used for the one who is to contract the Niyog with the woman

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      5. Max

        These are the verses which hindu quoted against Sati

        Atharvaveda 9.5.28 He who surrenders to god, and is adorned with generosity to all, being the second husband or the re married women attains to the beautifull lord as does his wife
        Atharvaveda 9:5:27 ‘A woman who having realised the primordial lord of the universe takes another man as her husband, is never separated from the divine, along with her new husband if they surrender to god”
        Atharvaveda 18.3.1 “This women have chosen her Husband’s world earlier. Today she is sitting beside ur dead body. Now bestow upon here both wealth and offspring for rest of her life to continue her afterlife in this world”

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      6. How does that disprove it lol, all it shows is that she can re-marry

        Niyoga can be done while the husband is alive or after death, is niyoga prohibited? No

        Rig Veda 10.40.2 ”O man and woman (connected by Niyoga), just as a widow, cohabits with her husband by Niyoga and produces children for him, and a wife cohabits with her husband by marriage and produces children for him, likewise (it may be asked) where both of you were during the day and during the night, and where you slept, who you are, and what your native place is.”

        Atharva Veda 14.2.18 “Do thou O woman that givest no pain to thy husband or Devar (husband by Niyoga), art kind to animals in this Order of householders, walk assiduously in the path of righteousness and justice, art well-versed in all the Shastras, hast children and grandchildren, givest birth to valiant the brave boys, desirest a second husband (by Niyoga), and bestoweth happiness on all, accept a man of they choice as thy husband or Devar , and always perform the Homa which is the duty of every householder.”

        Notice the distinction between “Husband” and “Devar”, the Arya Samaj explains the term

        ”*Q. ~ Supposing the deceased husband of a widow had no younger brother, with whom should she contract Niyoga?
        A. ~ With her devar, but the word devar does not mean what you think. For the Nirukta says “The second husband by Niyoga of a widow, be he the younger brother of her deceased husband or his elder brother, or of a man of her won Class or of a higher Class, is called Devar.” explanation by Dr. Chiranjiva Bhardwaja, page 134, Ch 4, Satyarth Prakash.

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      7. “These are the verses which hindu quoted against Sati”

        Ohhhh im so sorry I got distracted I thought you were talking about Niyog

        And as I already said the vedas doesn’t condone the sati

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      8. Max

        Bro, how was Rama born?
        1-> King Dasharatha of Ayodhya had three wives: Kausalya, Kaikeyi and Sumitra. He performed a sacrifice to beget sons and as a result, his queens became pregnant. Lakshmana and his brother Shatrughna were born to Sumitra, while Rama and Bharata were born to Kausalya and Kaikeyi.
        OR

        2->All The 4 Sons Of King Dashrat Are the Outcome Of “Niyoga”, As King Dashrat Was A Known Impotent. He Was Desperate To Have A Sons. So He Sent All His 3 Wives To The Three Priests To Beget Sons For Him.
        The story of king Dasaratha who, in order to have a baby son, made a big sacrifice (yagam) of sheep, cattle, horses, birds and snakes. He then delivered his three wives Kaushaliya, Kaikeyi & Sumitra to three priests. These holy men, having fully satisfied their carnal desire, returned the ladies to the king. By this means, the king was able to have four Sons-Ram, Bharat, Laxmana & Shatrughan (Bala Kandam, Chapter 14. For more details on yagam, refer to the book “Gnana Surian”, published by the kudi Arasu Press.)
        OR

        3-> Ram’s father Dasharath had three wives and he had no children from any of his wives probably because he was either infertile or impotent. So he performed Ashvamedha Yajna the horse sacrifice which is for fertility and to gain power and in this sacrifice the queen has to place the penis of the dead horse in her vagina and has to recite some obscene verses,Valmiki Ramayan, Bala Kanda 1.14.33-35 ”With great delight coming on her Queen Kausalya reverently made circumambulations to the horse, and symbolically killed the horse with three knives. Queen Kausalya desiring the results of ritual disconcertedly resided one night with that horse that flew away like a bird. Thus, the officiating priests of the ritual, namely hota, adhwaryu and udgaata have received in their hand the Crowned Queen, the neglected wife,and a concubine of the king, next as a symbolic donation in the ritual by the performer, the king.” Tr. Shri Desiraju Hanumanth Rao

        All 3 contain sacrifice, but was Rama born through sacrifice only or through Niyog or through Ashvamedha Yajna

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      9. Ashvamedha Yajna is a symbolic sacrifice, the horse stays alive during the ritual, it’s only symbolically “sacrificed” with a knife by doing some gestures and stuff but it is not harmed then the woman proceeds to have intercourse with the horse…the point of the ritual is to become fertile…it is possible that Kaushalya engaged in the Yajna first to become fertile then afterwards engaged in Niyog

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      10. “King Dasharatha of Ayodhya had three wives: Kausalya, Kaikeyi and Sumitra. He performed a sacrifice to beget sons”

        Could be a contradiction or simply a vague allusion to the Ashmavedha

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      11. Max

        bro you mentioned following verses: Rig Veda 10.40.2 ”O man and woman (connected by Niyoga), just as a widow, cohabits with her husband by Niyoga and produces children for him, and a wife cohabits with her husband by marriage and produces children for him, likewise (it may be asked) where both of you were during the day and during the night, and where you slept, who you are, and what your native place is.”

        Atharva Veda 14.2.18 “Do thou O woman that givest no pain to thy husband or Devar (husband by Niyoga), art kind to animals in this Order of householders, walk assiduously in the path of righteousness and justice, art well-versed in all the Shastras, hast children and grandchildren, givest birth to valiant the brave boys, desirest a second husband (by Niyoga), and bestoweth happiness on all, accept a man of they choice as thy husband or Devar , and always perform the Homa which is the duty of every householder.”

        What about this translation?
        Rig Veda 10.40.2 “Where are ye, Aśvins, in the evening, where at morn? Where is your halting place, where rest ye for the night? Who brings you homeward, as the widow bedward draws her husband’s brother, as the bride attracts the groom?”

        Atharva Veda 14.2.18 “No slayer of thy husband or his father, gentle and bright, bring blessing on the cattle. Loving thy husband’s father, bring forth heroes. Tend well this household fire: be soft and pleasant.”

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      12. “What about this translation?”

        That’s Griffith and it has a bad reputation for innacuracy, i’m using Arya Samaj translation

        The first one still seems to prove the point

        I must look into the sanskrit for the rest

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      13. For example over here Griffith must have mistranslated ” Devar” as “husband’s brother” but context determines the meaning and in that particular context the meaning is more likely to be in line with the Chiranjiva Bhardwaja explanation I quoted in one of my previous reply

        “Rig Veda 10.40.2 “Where are ye, Aśvins, in the evening, where at morn? Where is your halting place, where rest ye for the night? Who brings you homeward, as the widow bedward draws her ***husband’s brother****”

        ”*Q. ~ Supposing the deceased husband of a widow had no younger brother, with whom should she contract Niyoga?
        A. ~ With her devar, but the word devar does not mean what you think. For the Nirukta says “The second husband by Niyoga of a widow, be he the younger brother of her deceased husband or his elder brother, or of a man of her won Class or of a higher Class, is called Devar.” explanation by Dr. Chiranjiva Bhardwaja, page 134, Ch 4, Satyarth Prakash

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    1. My concubine's favourite

      @Max
      “look everyone! Our scripture mentions some names and places! This must mean that it is true!!!!”
      yeah….. No. Afaik Hinduism is just a glorified fanfiction that includes a variety of myths, traditions from all kinds of people. To assert that just because it mentions some places that are found in real life is such a weak argument. We could say the same for the Bible but does it mean its true? No.

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  20. Assalamu alaikum,

    Guys, I started to fall in love with a Tradition of Prophet to the extend where I even started to believe that it is far important than the mandatory stuff. Like for example, I get angry because I miss Midday prayer mainly because I have missed the opportunity to do properly the Rawatib prayer and offering of 4 units before and after Midday prayer just so I can be saved from Hellfire.

    And I have this belief that I must revive the Tradition of Prophet so I can get the following rewards:

    1. To be close friend of God Almighty.
    2. To be a companion of Prophet Muhammmad(peace be upon him)
    3. To answer the questions of grave with ease and without difficulty.

    However, the problem is that I went too far with this that I even started to believe it is far important than mandatory ones.

    Root cause of that is because in my mind, I don’t see any great reward for offering the obligatory prayers.

    My questions I wish to ask are:

    1. Have I committed blasphemy?
    2. Is it ok to have such belief?
    3. What should I do in this case?!

    P.S. please guys, don’t judge me. Also, I would be grateful if you could answer fast, because I’m worried about my situation.

    Jazakhalakhair

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    1. stewjo004

      @alexanderabood

      Walakum salam wa rahma tu lahi wa barakatu,

      It’s good you’re increasing in knowledge and worship. So it’s one of the tricks of Shaytan when someone starts doing this to make them so focused on options they miss obligatory stuff. Remember the optional is basically extra credit and while they have merits this only applies AFTER obligations as they will always take precedence. For example, let’s look at reward of both prayers:

      Optional= Gain 1 good deed, nothing loss if missed
      Obligatory= Gain 1 good deed and gain a sin if missed

      It’s always better to remove sin than gain an extra good deed even though both are good.

      In regards to the obligatory prayers remember they are literally the FIRST question asked on the Day of Judgement:

      Narrated AbuHurayrah:
      … from the Prophet (ﷺ):) The first thing about which the people will be called to account out of their actions on the Day of Judgment is prayer. Our Lord, the Exalted, will say to the angels – though He knows better: Look into the prayer of My servant and see whether he has offered it perfectly or imperfectly. If it is perfect, that will be recorded perfect.
      https://sunnah.com/abudawud/2

      So when you hear about these virtues of optional prayers, the obligatory for the most carries those as well. Also, they have a higher status by being mentioned by Allah in the Quran when optional has not.

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  21. Assalamu alaikum,

    Guys, I started to suffer from blasphemous thoughts which now I believe it made impact on my Islamic belief system. I don’t know why the heck do I have to suffer from such things which I cannot even tell what are they.

    Thought 1:

    Someone told me that Khawarij are also Muslims and I got angry to hear this mainly because I cannot imagine how are they Muslims since what they do is not the quality and characteristics of a true practicing Muslim like me and you, and then he told me that in Paradise you will be fully satisfied and then I started to reject this thinking “how will I be satisfied while knowing terrorists will also be in Paradise!”

    And the root cause of this thinking “how will I be satisfied while knowing Khawarij will als be in Paradise?!” is that Khawarij are evil monsters who do atrocities in the name of Islam for centuries! And personally, I cannot forgive Khawarij because I don’t have this power.

    I would be extremely happy if God Almighty would Say something like on the Day of Judgement to Khawarij: “Because, you have done atrocities in the name of Islam, all of you should go immediately to bottom of Hellfire to stay therein eternally”

    My questions are:

    1. Have I committed kufr!?
    2. What should I do!?
    3. How can I change this feeling which I have!?
    4. Is it normal to have such belief!?

    Jazakhalakhair

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    1. You have asked this kind of question many times and you have been told that you should spend your time increasing your Iman and learning instead of worrying about the fate of other people on the day of judgement. Whatever Allah decrees for the Khawarij or anyone else is not your concern. Concern yourself with your own akhira.

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  22. Spider and superbatman

    Can parents force their daughter to wear Hijab?
    Can a husband force his wife to wear Hijab?

    On one website it said no parents can’t force.
    On another website it said yes parents must force.

    Which is correct?

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    1. Caliph ibn mumthaz

      @Spider and superbatman
      Yes parents do have the right to force their daughter to wear the hijab. Likewise the husband does as well.

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  23. Assalamu alaikum,

    Guys, I started to revive and implement the Tradition of Prophet with the intention of earning the reward of being with Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) in Paradise.

    I started to add new thing which is recitation of Tasbih Fatimah after each prayer after reciting Ayatul Kursi after each prayer, offering Rawatib prayer and offering 4 units before and after Midday.

    I want to recite also Sayyidul Istighfar and Traditional prayers, but I don’t know when to offer Duha and Ishraq prayers.

    My questions are:

    1. How do I pray Ishraq and Duha prayers without confusing them?
    2. Is little Traditional work is enough for me to be capable of answering the questions of grave?
    3. What can I do for rme to be with Prophet Muhammad in Paradise?
    4. Is it part of Tradition to wear Hishdasha(the male version of Hijab)? Because, in my mother told me that I don’t need to wear this in Romania as it is not hot country but only in Arab countries you can wear it.
    5. May I have a list of traditional actions and deeds I can do daily so I can be with Prophet Muhammad in Paradise?
    6. Should I recite Sayyidul Istighfar after every Dawn and Sunset prayers in order to get the promised reward?
    7. By reviving and implementing the Tradition of Prophet, will I cross the Straight Path bridge with a blink of an eye or with speed of light?
    8. Will I also have a large light on Straight Path bridge for reviving and implementing the Tradition of Prophet?

    P.S. The reason I ask is because I have metal bars on my backbone, and because of that I cannot fast the traditional fasts which is every Thursday and Friday I guess so I could get the intercession of Fast.

    Jazakalakhair

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    1. stewjo004

      @alexanderbrood

      Down the line:

      1. Duha prayer is any 2 rakah you offer between about 20 min after fajr all the way to Dhur. Ishraq is a form Duha that is done early, so if you pray Ishraq you don’t pray Duha.

      https://islamqa.info/en/answers/22389/the-time-of-duha-prayer

      2. The fitna of the grave’s questions are answered through iman and obeying Allah. If you do what Allah has told us Allah will save yoou from it.

      3. Sponsor and take care of orphans
      Sahl ibn Sa‘d (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “I and the one who sponsors an orphan will be in Paradise like these two,” and he gestured with his two fingers, meaning the forefinger and the middle finger. Classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan at-Tirmidhi.

      4. I’m assuming a “Hishdasha” is a thobe. If so there is no reward for wearing a thobe.

      5. Love him
      Narrated Anas:

      A man asked the Prophet (ﷺ) about the Hour (i.e. Day of Judgment) saying, “When will the Hour be?” The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “What have you prepared for it?” The man said, “Nothing, except that I love Allah and His Apostle.” The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “You will be with those whom you love.” We had never been so glad as we were on hearing that saying of the Prophet (i.e., “You will be with those whom you love.”) Therefore, I love the Prophet, Abu Bakr and `Umar, and I hope that I will be with them because of my love for them though my deeds are not similar to theirs.

      6. If it is something you can do then yes

      7/8. Allah hu alim but be hopeful in Allah’s reward.

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  24. Supporter of Ahmad bin 'Abd-Allah peace and blessings upon him

    How true is the argument that the Qur’an mentions Allah breathing the soul through the private parts of Maryam peace be upon her? Astaghfirullah

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      1. “Bro what if divorce took place?”

        Divorce to whom?

        If her first husband gave her triple talaaq then he’s haraam for her and there’s no way around it unless she married with someone else and consummated her marriage and then had a divorce.

        If she married the second person with the **intent** of having a divorce in order to go back to her ex husband (first guy) then it’s impermissible and invalid and it’s akin to Mut’ah

        Abu Dawood (2076) narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has cursed the muhallil and the muhallal lahu.”

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      2. Max

        I mean that a misunderstanding took place and husband divorced his wife. Suppose after few months/days/weeks both of them understood their mistake and they want to be together. In order to remarry her former husband is it required that wife must marry some other male to be made lawful for former husband(to marry former husband)?

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    1. stewjo004

      @Max

      Really isn’t much of a misunderstanding to be had, you’re a man, control your actions. While I personally take the position that saying “talaq, talaq, talaq” AND completing the iddah is only one divorce people shouldn’t be so loose about the subject to put themselves in the situation to begin with. Regarding them wanting to be together, no if she married a second man with the intent to allow him to have sex with her and then divorced him to go back to her first husband this would basically be a mutah between her and the second man. You can’t marry someone with the intent to get divorced at a certain time later as that is all mutah is.

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  25. astroboy

    Can we use this verse against Christians?
    [Matthew 7:21] “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.”

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  26. My name is Human

    I have a question
    Suppose Captain America killed Thor and after realising that what he did was wrong he repented,but what about justice of Thor? If Captain America was forgiven then how Thor will get justice?
    Another scenario: Captain killed Thor and repented after realising that he is wrong he repented, but Thor’s brother didn’t forgive Captain America for what he did to his brother. Will Captain America be forgiven? because we know that Allah has told us if victim or his family will forgive the criminal only then Allah will forgive that criminal.

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    1. In the first scenario, Thor will be able to seek justice on judgement day. This might be in the form of his sins being transferred to Captain America and/or Captain America’s good deeds bring transferred to Thor to the amount that Allah says. Thor may also have the option of forgiving Captain America.

      In the 2nd scenario, the brother has the right to seek blood money for Thor’s killing in lieu of retaliation.

      Intentional killing of a believer is a grave sin, as it says in Surah 4:93. According to Ibn Kathir, most scholars state that the one who intentionally kills a believer

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  27. My name is Human

    A Kuffar said ‘When Muhammad was in constant war with pagans, he promised his followers that who ever sacrifices or dies for the cause of Allah, whether it will be male or female will attain great reward in jannah’. The sad thing is these verses along with other verses are used by terrorists to promote terrorism.’
    How to respond to this?

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    1. stewjo004

      @My Name is Human

      The response would be as follows:

      Violence in the Muslim world (which is a relatively new trend as terrorism was dominated by Guerrilla movements in Central and South America, in the 80s) can basically be broken down because of population, failed governance, and weak economic development (which is why we saw drops in terrorism in places such as Europe once similar issues were addressed).
      https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/publication/170928_Scoring_Instability_MENA.pdf?Rx8YruTusj_FyLrQjXRMCQQB.xVZ.63F

      Next majority of violence in the Muslim world is committed by four groups (and they’re all relatively interlinked) ISIS, Boko Haram, the Taliban, and al-Shabaab and they have mostly killed Muslims:

      “The fourth section of the report shows the trends in terms of death, injuries, and kidnappings/hostage taking. No one can condone or ignore the numbers killed in the U.S. and Europe, but they are relatively tiny in actuarial terms. For example, there were 658 deaths in Europe and all of the Americas between January 1, 2015 and July 16, 2016. There were 28,031—or 43 times more deaths—in other regions—most of them consisting of largely Islamic countries. Almost all of the human impact of extremist attacks is Muslims killing or injuring fellow Muslims…Seven of the ten countries with the most terrorist attacks in 2016 had vast Muslim majorities, and the death and injuries in the other three involve large numbers of Muslim deaths. A total of 83% of the attacks and 90% of the deaths occurred in solidly Islamic countries. The vast majority of suicide and vehicle attacks came from “Islamist” extremist groups that killed Muslims in largely Muslim countries.”

      Now that these groups are actively being fought against surprise, surprise it actually shows a global trend of a drastic decrease in terrorism.
      https://world101.cfr.org/global-era-issues/terrorism/terrorism-numbers

      You will not find any recognized, mainstream Muslim scholar supporting any of said groups (you can actually find the contrary) so again why you felt the need to make such ridiculous comments is just beyond me. Islam contrary to your tiny echo chamber is not some new cult that sprung up in 2001 but a major world religion (the 2nd largest) and it is quite sad you are so uncultured to not even know the basics of it.

      “The Quran does not say to kill all infidels”’ and I challenge you to show a verse in context that says such (spoiler any verse you bring will either be referring to the tribe of Quraish who were pagan Arabs at war with the early Muslim community, the Jews in Medina who were allied to said Arab pagan tribe or the Romans).

      As for “well extremism blah, blah, blah” ANY idealogy on planet Earth has had extremism, and again this a recent phenomena caused by the factors I listed above (you can also add in foreign intervention/ colonialism as well but I’d rather not open that can of worms)

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    2. “When Muhammad was in constant war with pagans, he promised his followers that who ever sacrifices or dies for the cause of Allah, whether it will be male or female will attain great reward in jannah”

      MashAllah

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  28. Supporter of Ahmad bin 'Abd-Allah peace and blessings upon him

    @My name is Human

    Easy. Those terrorists are khwarij who are the dogs of hell. They do not represent Islam accurately at all. May they be cursed by Allah. Ameen

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  29. noname

    Is energy focussing true? like some shaolin monks and other fighters and buddhist monks claim.
    On focussing energy or basically transferring energy your attack will be stronger and bla bla bla…

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      1. arshi

        I asked you about Oral tradition of learning Quran and about Quranic Manuscripts.Thank you for your reply.
        A question arises how do we know name of Sahabas and chain of transmission of Quran and Hadith if hadith were compiled 300 years after the prophet(saw)? and all our books were burned( in Baghdad,Iraq by mongols and others)

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      2. arshi

        I have one more question.
        Why should wives obey husband?
        “Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husbands) absence what Allah would have them guard”[an-Nisaa’ 4:34].

        If a husband commands his wife to sit then she should sit or not?
        If a husband commands his wife to stand then she should stand or not?
        From above statements I mean ‘husband controlling his wife like a robot’
        If husband says stand then wife stands and if husband says sit then wife sits , if husband says don’t eat anything then wife doesn’t eats anything, if husband commands wife to stand all day then wife stands all day,etc.

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      3. “A question arises how do we know name of Sahabas and chain of transmission of Quran and Hadith if hadith were compiled 300 years after the prophet(saw)?”

        The word “compile” answers your question, what Bukhari took i.e the Isnad (chains), the matn etc (and the other collections prior to him) were already memorized in different schools, for example the Tabi’un transmitted to their students, the Tābiʿū al-Tābʿīn had theirs and transmitted to them it goes on and on, all of that was mainly done orally

        Same for memorization of the Quran

        “hadith were compiled 300 years after the prophet(saw)?””

        Malik Muwwata–148 A.H. and 163 A.H.

        Bukhari–200

        Before Bukhari and Ibn Malik there were already collections during the time of the Tabi’un and the time of Tābiʿū al-Tābʿīn such as Sahifah of Hammam bin Munabbih, Hasan al-Basri, Muhammad al Baqir, Ibn Shihab az Zuhri and *many* others but Oral transmission was the main priority, books weren’t as important

        “and all our books were burned( in Baghdad,Iraq by mongols and others)”

        All?

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      4. “husband controlling his wife like a robot’
        If husband says stand then wife stands and if husband says sit then wife sits , if husband says don’t eat anything then wife doesn’t eats anything, if husband commands wife to stand all day then wife stands all day,etc.”

        No lol, that’s abuse and not allowed

        Refer to the Sunnah of treating women to get a more accurate picture of how it works

        Are you Indian?

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      5. *treating wives.

        And yes wives have to obey but let’s be realistic, it’s within a context as long as it’s not abuse…both have responsibilities towards each other

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      6. stewjo004

        @ Asura

        Quick note, regarding oral and writing in early Islam it depended more on which school you went to. Some early scholars were strict oral as a way of keeping strong memory some were more writers.

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    1. @Mishal

      People will say there’s no one answer to that and that there are different psychologies involved, that’s only true on the outside but in the inside….deep down…like really deeeeeep down it boils down to what this verse says

      “And when it is said unto them: Follow that which Allah hath revealed, they say: We follow that wherein we found our fathers. What! Even though their fathers were wholly unintelligent and had no guidance?”

      Surah Al-Baqarah (2:170)

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  30. postcomment

    Can someone tell me about Al-Faridi of CIRA International and why refutation channels don’t refute his claims?

    Is it true that Obama allowed 26,000 drone attacks in 7 Muslim majority countries for 8 years?
    Each attack killed 3 people 26,000X3= 78,000 deaths per year.
    78,000 X 8= 624000 deaths in 8 years

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    1. You probably mean Al Fadi…he barely brings anything new afaik…i have a friend who used to make some good videos refuting him when he was only 15 sooooo that speaks a lot about Fadi….if you have any of his arguments bothering you then please do share

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      1. Max

        I was watching Bob the builder vs Mohd.Hijab (Part4) on SCDawah. Bob used Quranic verse which states that Sun setting in murky water and used hadith of Prophet Muhammad(saw) saying that sun sets in murky water(I know about the hadith but I don’t remeber which one,critics use that hadith a lot against Quran) and then Hijab said that hadith is weak and bob replied by saying that hadith is not weak but it is Hasan.
        Can you tell me something about that hadith.

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      2. Max

        Is this translation valid?
        “Visnu took theform of the apsaras Mohini in orderto beguilethe demons and to steal the
        Soma back from them. Having accomplished this, Visnu was approached by Siva and
        Parvati, and Siva asked him to display theseductiveform which he had assumed forthe
        demons. Visnu became Mohini, and Siva immediately ran after her, abandoning Parvati
        who stood with her head lowered in shame. Siva embraced Mohini by force, and hisseed
        (semen) fell upon the ground. Mohini disappeared and Siva returned to Parvati.” —
        [Brahmanda Purana 4:10:41-77.]

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      3. Max

        I asked for valid translation because many Hindus say that ‘this is Arya Samaj translation and we don’t accept arya samaj translation’.

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      4. He was probably speaking about the chain….It is a “shaadh” hadith (anomalous), a hadith may have a trustworthy or hasan chain but still be categorized as shaadh

        Abu Dharr narrated, “Once I was with the Prophet riding a donkey on which there was a saddle or a (piece of) velvet. That was at sunset. He said to me, ‘O Abu Dharr, do you know where this (sun) sets?’ I said, ‘Allah and His Messenger know better.’ He said, ‘It sets in a spring of murky water, (then) it goes and prostrates before its Lord, the Exalted in Might and the Ever-Majestic, under the Throne. And when it is time to go out, Allah allows it to go out and thus it rises. But, when He wants to make it rise where it sets, He locks it up. The sun will then say, “O my Lord, I have a long distance to run.” Allah will say, “Rise where you have set.” That (will take place) when no (disbelieving) soul will get any good by believing then.’” (Musnad Ahmad, Hadith 21459 al-Risala ed.)

        Quote:

        “This narration is quite similar to the narration found in many hadith works including Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim etc. except the words “It sets in a spring of warm water.””

        “Analysis of the chains of narrators:

        From Abu Darr, it both ways i.e. with and without the words under consideration, it narrated by Yazid al-Taymi and from him by his son Ibrahim bin Yazid al-Taymi. From Ibrahim it is narrated by six different narrators;
        1- Al-A’mash: And from him at least five people narrate it. See Sahih Bukhari etc.

        2- Yunus bin ‘Ubaid: And from him at least three narrators report this narration. See Sahih Muslim etc.

        3- Musa bin al-Musayyab al-Thaqafi: From him it is narrated by Abdah bin Sulayman, See Al-‘Uzmah of Abu al-Shaykh al-Asbahani 4/1189
        4- Abdul A’la al-Taymi: The narrator down from him is Mis’ar, See Hilyah al-Awliya 5/89

        5- Harun bin Sa’d: Abdul Ghaffar bin al-Qasim narrates from him. See Al-‘Uzmah of Abu al-Shaykh al-Asbahani 4/1191 and Al-Tabarani’s Mu’jam Al-Awst, Hadith 4470

        6- Al-Hakam bin ‘Utaybah: The sole narrator down from him is Sufyan bin Husain, See Sunan Abu Dawud, Musnad Ahmad, Mustadrak al-Hakim, Musnad al-Bazzar etc.

        Of all these various routes from Ibrahim bin Yazid al-Taymi, it is only through Al-Hakam bin ‘Utaybah that these words “It sets in a spring of warm water” are narrated.

        In short, there are six narrators reporting the hadith from Ibrahim bin Yazid, and only one of them i.e. Al-Hakam bin ‘Utaybah quotes the particular words. And to add to the trouble there is again only one narrator down from him and he is Sufyan bin Husain whereas parallel to Sufyan there are at least eleven people narrating the hadith without these words on the authority of five different people narrating from Ibrahim bin Yazid.

        Following flow diagram for the above detail gives the pictorial display the strangeness of these words. Down from Ibrahim bin Yazid al-Taymi only the narrators with red outline for their names give the words under consideration against loads of other narrators who do not report these words.

        The narration is anomalous (shaadh) and defective (mu’allal):

        This fact alone is enough to make the narration dubious. No doubt both Al-Hakam and Sufyan are per se trustworthy narrators but because on their respective levels they go against much reliable and numerous narrators. Such a narration reported this way is termed as “shaadh” i.e. anomalous.”

        https://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2012/09/weak-hadith-sun-spring-warm-water.html?m=1

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      5. Max

        do you know something about this

        Sex with dead bodies is permissible in islame.
        In Fatawa Qadhi Khan, Page 820, the learned Hanafi scholar Allamah Hassan bin Mansoor Qadhi Khan sets out those acts that do not invalidate one’s fast, and he includes:
        “Sex with animals, dead people and masturbation, does not invalidate ones fast provided ejaculation does not occur
        Fatawa Qadhi Khan, Page 820
        We find the below hadith in the book “Kanz Al Umal”:
        Narrated by lbn Abbas:
        1 (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I SLEPT with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allahs creatures to me after Abu Talib…The prophet was referring to Fatima, the mother of Ali.
        “The Arabic word used here for slept is “Id’tajat and literally means “lay down” with her. It is often used to mean, “Lay down to have sex

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      6. “Kanz Al Umal”:
        Narrated by lbn Abbas:
        1 (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I SLEPT with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allahs creatures to me after Abu Talib…The prophet was referring to Fatima, the mother of Ali.”

        Authenticity?

        “The Arabic word used here for slept is “Id’tajat and literally means “lay down” with her. It is often used to mean, “Lay down to have sex”

        Says who? Which lexicon?

        “It is often used to mean, “Lay down to have sex”

        Eh?

        https://www.almaany.com/en/dict/ar-en/%D8%A7%D8%B6%D8%B7%D8%AC%D8%B9/

        And how does having sex lessen the pressure? Even if he did lay it logically it sounds like he was checking or examining if all is good

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      7. I’m not a proponent of the whole thing about Quran and scientific miracles btw but anyway the meaning of اَنۡزَلۡنَا depends on the context

        In the case of iron it *could* mean the action of being physically sent down or it could mean to “produce” or as a reference of a provision ​bestowed on us on the same spectrum as 7:26

        يٰبَنِىۡۤ اٰدَمَ قَدۡ اَنۡزَلۡنَا عَلَيۡكُمۡ لِبَاسًا يُّوَارِىۡ سَوۡاٰتِكُمۡ وَرِيۡشًا​ ؕ وَلِبَاسُ التَّقۡوٰى ۙ ذٰ لِكَ خَيۡرٌ​ ؕ ذٰ لِكَ مِنۡ اٰيٰتِ اللّٰهِ لَعَلَّهُمۡ يَذَّكَّرُوۡنَ‏

        “Children of Adam, We have given you garments to cover your nakedness and as adornment for you; the garment of God-consciousness is the best of all garments- this is one of God’s signs, so that people may take heed.”

        Uh? Did he really use 6:6?

        “We showered from the heavens abundant rains, and at whose feet We caused the rivers to flow?”

        He’s mistaken here, The word used is أَرْسَلْنَا and not اَنۡزَلۡنَا , not that it makes a big or any difference meaning-wise but for the sake of argument *even if* اَنۡزَلۡنَا was used it still proves the point of the miracle proponents as the the verb here in context could refer to physically sending down something from an upper elevation, 7:57 is a more proper example pertaining to the topic

        وَهُوَ الَّذِىۡ يُرۡسِلُ الرِّيٰحَ بُشۡرًۢا بَيۡنَ يَدَىۡ رَحۡمَتِهٖ ​ؕ حَتّٰۤى اِذَاۤ اَقَلَّتۡ سَحَابًا ثِقَالًا سُقۡنٰهُ لِبَلَدٍ مَّيِّتٍ فَاَنۡزَلۡنَا بِهِ الۡمَآءَ فَاَخۡرَجۡنَا بِهٖ مِنۡ كُلِّ الثَّمَرٰتِ​ؕ كَذٰلِكَ نُخۡرِجُ الۡمَوۡتٰى لَعَلَّكُمۡ تَذَكَّرُوۡنَ‏

        “And it is He Who sends forth winds as glad tidings in advance of His Mercy, and when they have carried a heavy-laden cloud We drive it to a dead land, then We send down rain from it and bring forth therwith fruits of every kind. In this manner do We raise the dead that you may take heed.”

        his rebbutal about going by miracle proponent logic whether that would mean rain comes from space is ridiculous as the word refers to an action irrespective of location and the point of the miracle proponents is considering that Anzalna can mean literally *physically* sending *down* something then scientifically speaking it could be referring to iron *physically coming down* from meteors, the *action* that the verb could be reffering to is the main point of their argument here.

        He also mentions the verse about Manna and Salwa but you get the point already so i’d rather not comment further

        lol multiples times at the end he refered to chapters (surah) as “ayah”

        Some brief points, the argument about Ibn Mas’ud is that he omits surah fatiha and al-mu’awwazatayn which leads to only 111 surahs in his mushaf. Here’s the thing Ibn Mas’ud didn’t write for the sake of preservation, his mushaf was for personal use, if he did omit a surah it wasn’t due to not accepting them as part of the Quran, it was for personal reasons, for example he did omit surah fatiha and that was his given reason

        In a Narration given by Abu Bakr al Anbari (d.304 AH)

        Abdullah bin Mas’ud was asked as to why he did not write al-Fatihah in his mushaf. He replied “If I were to write I would write it before every surah.‟” Abu Bakr al-Anbari explains this saying every raka’ah (in prayers) starts with al-Fatihah and the. another surah is recited. It is as if Ibn
        Mas’ood said, I have dropped it for the sake of brevity and I have trusted its preservation by Muslims (collectively)

        So even *if* he did omit the al mu’awwazatayn as well then it didn’t mean he didn’t consider them as part of the Quran, he may have had his personal reasons, while we’re certain he omited surah Fatiha I’m personally skeptical of the whole claim about the al-mu’awwazatayn because the argument comes from later mushafs ascribed to him so we can’t be certain

        But Ibn Mas’ud for sure did consider the al-mu’awwazatayn as part of the Quran

        Narrated Ibn Mas’ud: “Excessively recite two surahs. Allah will make you reach higher ranks in the Hereafter because of them. They are al-mu’awwazatayn (i.e. al-Falaq and an-Nas/Nos. 113 & 114) …” (Kanzul ‘Ummal, Hadith 2743)

        As for Ibn Ubayd

        “Hamad b. Salama reported that Ubayy’s Mushaf contained two extra sura, called al-Hafad and al- Khala. This report is completely spurious because of a major defect in the chain, as there is an unaccounted-for gap of at least two to three generations, between Ubayy’s death ( d. ca. 30 A.H)and hammand’s (d. 167 A.H) scholarly activity…..
        ( Ibn Durais, Fada’il al-Quran, p.157)”

        Even if the narration was legit, it could have been a misunderstanding because the alleged surahs were actually a supplication taught by the Prophet that the companions used in prayer

        “O Allah! We beg help from You alone; ask forgiveness from You alone, and praise You and are not ungrateful to You and we part and break off with all those who are disobedient to you.”

        “O Allah! You alone do we worship and pray exclusively to You and bow before You alone and we hasten eagerly towards You and we fear Your severe punishment and hope for Your Mercy as your severe punishment is surely to be meted out to the unbelievers.”

        Al-Baihaqi records, Khalid bin Abi ‘Imran narrated:

        “While the Messenger of Allah – peace and blessings of Allah be upon him- was supplicating against the Mudhar, Gabriel came to him and signaled him to remain silent, so he became silent. Then Gabriel said, “O Muhammad, Allah has not sent you to disparage or condemn, rather he has sent you as a mercy. And he has not sent you to bring torment. ‘Not for you, [O Muhammad, but for Allah], is the decision whether He should [cut them down] or forgive them or punish them, for indeed, they are wrongdoers.’ [Qur’an 3:128] Then he taught him this supplication, ‘O Allah! We beg help from You alone …’” (Sunan al-Kubra, Hadith 3142

        Husayn [bin ‘Abdul Rahman] said he offered prayers behind ‘Uthman bin Ziyad. After the prayers ‘Uthman bin Ziyad told him that he supplicated with these words and then pronounced;

        كَذَا كَانَ يَصْنَعُ عُمَرُ بْنُ الْخَطَّابِ، وَعُثْمَانُ بْنُ عَفَّانَ

        “’Umar bin al-Khattab and ‘Uthman bin ‘Affan did the same way.” (Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah, Hadith 7032, Makteba al-Rushd, Riyadh 1409)

        Just because it was written in the Mushaf doesn’t mean the companion considered it part of the Quran, before standardization the companions included side notes in their *personal* mushafs for obvious reasons

        Muhammad Abdul Azim al-Zurqani (d. 1367 A.H.) wrote:

        “Some of the companions, who used to write Qur’an in one or more personal copies, at times wrote therein what was not from the Qur’an. It included the interpretation of what was difficult to them from the meaning of the Qur’an or the [words that formed the] supplications similar to the supplications in the Qur’an, that could be recited in the prayers at the time of ‘qunoot’ or the like of it. And they knew such was not [itself] the Qur’an. But for the dearth of the writing tools and [the fact that] they used to write Qur’an for themselves alone, keeping from others, it was easy for them because they were themselves free of the danger of mixing and confusing the Qur’an with other than it. Then some people with little insight imagined that whatever was written in those copies was written as Qur’an. But this is not the reality, but the reality is what you have just learnt.”
        (Manahil al-‘Irfan fi ‘Uloom al-Qur’an, Dar al-Kitab al-Arabi, Beirut 1415 A.H. p.222)

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      8. “He’s mistaken here”

        he clearly says اَنۡزَلۡنَا is written but doesn’t correct himself afterwards… he probably can’t read Arabic…then how shit was his research to include 6:6 as a usage of اَنۡزَلۡنَا

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      9. Not sure if the whole video bothered you or the last points or only the point about the “miracle”…if it’s about the “miracle” then I’d recommend you to read more on it to clear any misconceptions coz I don’t think there are scientific miracles in the Quran, even for that verse

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      10. Max

        you said ‘ coz I don’t think there are scientific miracles in the Quran’ Why? there are many verses in he Quran for example-> Embryology,Expansion of universe,layers of skin,fingerprint,etc.

        How can we refute incarnation of Krishna and other hindu gods.

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    2. stewjo004

      @ Max

      He sums up the retardation of their argument on the hadith in question (which doesn’t even make sense but I digress)
      http://www.investigate-islam.com/Investigateislam2.htm

      Regarding the fatwa, assuming it’s true (as they are known liars) basically, what’s being stated is an invalidation of a fast not approval. So for example, you will see a fiqh scholar talking about ghusl after zina, that does not mean they now approve of zina they are simply stating the ruling if someone were to commit this sin. The same is here a person who did this sin in their opinion the fast they ha was still valid if they hadn’t ejaculated because I assume they are likening the act to masturbation which carries a similar ruling.

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      1. Supporter of Ahmad bin 'Abd-Allah peace and blessings upon him

        @stew
        How authentic is “Kanz Al Umal”? Also what is the consensus on necrophilia?

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      2. Supporter of Ahmad bin 'Abd-Allah peace and blessings upon him

        I’m sorry if it is a odd question as I haven’t come across a consensus on it lol

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  31. Vaqas Rehman

    Hey so sorry if this is a stupid question but what does Islam say about the composition of a human and/or the human soul? What I mean is in the modern culture it is common to divide the human into three broad categories:

    The mind

    The body

    And the soul

    What does Islam have to say about this categorization? Furthermore there are some old faiths and new age groups who believe that the soul is made up of parts.

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    1. Supporter of Ahmad bin 'Abd-Allah peace and blessings upon him

      @vaqas rehman
      Do take note this is my personal interpretation so take this with several grains of salt. I believe you can say that the nafs to be the mind, our own body as… Well the body and our ruh that is blown unto us to be the soul. You can say that the ruh is our true selves while our body is just the means to do certain things, one of which is worshipping Allah ofc. The nafs is basically our mind altho it is used in the context of desires, etc. Idk if this is how it is interpreted in mainstream sunni thought. Hey shaad and stew, what do you guys think?

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  32. postcomment

    Did God of Bible ever told Moses or Abraham to worship him? A Christian made this point in defense of ‘where did Jesus said Worship me’.

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      1. 🅲🅰🆁 🅴🆇🅿🅴🆁🆃

        and bro please tell why ‘P’ is written on top left corner of my comment box?

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    1. stewjo004

      @postcomment

      To add more salt to the wound allegedly from Musa(as):

      “These are the commandments and statutes and ordinances that the LORD your God has instructed me to teach you to follow in the land that you are about to enter and possess…Fear the LORD your God, worship him, and take your oaths in his name.” (Deuteronomy 6:1-13)

      So that’s the end of that but for giggles, God also is alleged to tell Musa(as):

      If you worship me, the LORD your God, I will bless you with food and water and take away all your illnesses. (Exodus 23:25)

      35For the LORD had made a covenant with the Israelites and commanded them, “Do not worship other gods or bow down to them; do not serve them or sacrifice to them. 36Instead, worship the LORD, who brought you out of the land of Egypt with great power and an outstretched arm… (2 Kings 17:36-37)

      And finally allegedly from Isa(as):

      Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'” (Matthew 4:10)

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