102 thoughts on “Christians and atheists have killed more people than any other groups between 0-2008 CE

  1. People who were megalomaniacs and who happened to be atheists killed many people. Atheism does not lead to genocide since I am an atheist and have no desire to do that.

    As for christians and muslims, they have kill many just because of their religion and Christianity had a bit of a head start and empires behind them for a long while. We can see that even now when Muslims kill Muslims in Afghanistan.

    Muslims have nothing to be proud about.

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    1. By your logic, neither Christianity or Islam lead to genocide since there are Christians and Muslims have no desire to do that.

      And atheists are still killing people. The Uyghur genocide in China is a prime example.

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      1. Not at all, but nice try to llie. Christianity and Islam hold the torah to be correct, with of course picking and choosing. That is full of laws to kill the non-believer. So unless you gut your religion, you are stuck with that. I can happily give you verses that say this quite clearly. If Christians and Muslims don’t want to kill non-believers, then they are ignoring their religion.

        At least at one point Islamic countries were beacons of intelligence and tolerance. They have become as bad as the ignorant conservative Chrisitans here in the US.

        Again, we have the megalomaniacs in China, Xi, et al, who may or may not be atheists killing the Uyghur. And we have Sunnis killingn Shi’ites in Pakistan, And Muslims killing Hindus and vice versa in India and Bangladesh. The only reason we don’t have lots of idiot Christians here trying to kill people is that we have a separation of church and state.

        Just vicious little children fighting about whose imaginary friend is best.

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      2. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Dumb-dumb, are you lecturing me about what I believe? Once again, Muslims do not believe the “Torah” as we have it today is the infallible word of God. The Quran is the infallible word of God. The true Torah was corrupted. Know your place, atheist. You don’t get to tell me what I believe.

        Lol, are you really questioning whether the communist pigs in China are atheists or not? ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ Sounds like someone is desperate. They are literally forcing people to renounce their religion and become atheists, while chanting hymns to Xi and the communist party. Unless you’re a liar, which you clearly are, the Chinese campaign of extermination against the Uyghurs is run by atheists. Nice try with the deflection though.

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      3. always fun to see the depth of intellect with the playground insults here.

        I do get to tell you how your religion picks and chooses and fails just like every other religion since it is true.

        China has many many different religions in it, dear. You are terribly ignorant about China, but that is not surprising. And you cannot show at all that the extermination is because of atheists. It is because of a megalomaniac in a country that doesn’t want competition.

        Everytime yuo lie and claim atheism is a cause of genocide, I can point out otherwise since atheism is no more than lacking a belief in a god. If you want to get down to it, you are an atheist too since you do not believe in many many other gods. You are not a pan-atheist like me, but you certainly have no belief in any god but your version.

        So are *you* such a horrible person as you want to lie and claim I am? If your argument is sound, you are.

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      4. ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ Lol, the clown continues to lie, not only about what Islam actually teaches, but about the atheistic background of the communist party in China. The communists are atheists and don’t tolerate religion, dear troglodyte. And as part of their oppression of the Uyghurs, they are forcing them to renounce their religion and become atheists.

        You haven’t pointed out anything other than your atrocious stupidity and ignorance. No evidence, just moronic and inane babbling.

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      5. And again, the communist party is not all atheists. But do show they are dear.

        There are many religions in China. Again, a fail because you feel you need to lie. You can see a good summary of “religion in china” on wikipedia with plenty of sources to refer to. You of course will not read it since your religion depends on willful ignorance.

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      6. ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ Lol, the donkey keeps making idiotic claims, with no proof! The communist party officially is atheist. And it promotes atheism. It’s oppression of all religions is well-known. Well, at least to every other than club stupidity. ๐Ÿ˜‚

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      7. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ How ironic! Dummy keeps babbling, shows no evidence, makes inaccurate historical claims, gets refuted over and over again, and then accuses others of being “pathetically dishonorable”. Get a life, clown. You’re a joke.

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      8. Oh look who returned, now you’re making excuses for China, just to let you know China has had many decades of religious genocide(Mao Zedong), and even now Churches are being shut down forcefully overtime and the situation with Uyghurs is very clear, you making excuses for this shows us your true face under your moral emotional atheist garb, Also, please don’t speak about politics of the Muslim world when you’re so extremely ignorant of it, you are again simplifying a complex issue dating for hundreds of years by making it look like Muslims read the Quran and decided lets start killing people when that’s clearly not the case,

        and Ironic you say we refuse to look at what proves us wrong, let me recount to our last discussion when I provided 3 articles one by a dictionary and two by universities defining Atheism which you willfully ignored for the sake of your argument instead, going into an emotional tantrum with ad hominems and red herrings, and lets not even get into your clear lack of insight on communism, the anti religious sentiment in communism is very clear from the time of Karl Marx himself, in which he says Religion must be removed for the happiness of the people, and you dare to call Muslims willfully ignorant?

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    2. Don’t be stupid, because Islam and Christianity don’t promote killing. And no other religion don’t seek that.

      I’m myself a practicing Sunni Muslim and I have no desire in killing anyone. Because, I’m aware that killing is a major crime in Islam.

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      1. Both promote killing all through the Torah they are based on to kill the non-believer. Shall I quote verses to you?

        Your double negatives make it hard to understand what you are trying to say.

        Hmmm, funny how the Taliban just shot commandos, muslims who were trying to surrender. Sunnis and Shi’ites have repeatedly killed one another over their differences. Pakistan is notorious for the killing between the sects.

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      2. Muslims don’t believe in the current Torah as the infallible word of God. We believe it has been corrupted.

        No one denied that Muslims have not killed people. But the statistics show that Muslims are at the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to mass killings. Christians and atheists are the worst mass murderers in the last 2000 years.

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      3. yep, making up your own version, I know. Alas, you can’t show that to be the case.

        You still lie about atheists, how nice. I guess telling the truth isn’t important to you, eh?

        and Christans, well, they had a thousand year head start. So again, you are trying to lie about how supposedly peaceful your religion is.

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      4. Hey moron, again you’re lecturing me about my religion? Here, this is what the Quran says:

        Al-Baqarah 2:79

        ููŽูˆูŽูŠู’ู„ูŒ ู„ู‘ูู„ู‘ูŽุฐููŠู’ู†ูŽ ูŠูŽูƒู’ุชูุจููˆู’ู†ูŽ ุงู„ู’ูƒูุชูฐุจูŽ ุจูุงูŽูŠู’ุฏููŠู’ู‡ูู…ู’ ุซูู…ู‘ูŽ ูŠูŽู‚ููˆู’ู„ููˆู’ู†ูŽ ู‡ูฐุฐูŽุง ู…ูู†ู’ ุนูู†ู’ุฏู ุงู„ู„ู‘ูฐู‡ู ู„ููŠูŽุดู’ุชูŽุฑููˆู’ุง ุจูู‡ู– ุซูŽู…ูŽู†ู‹ุง ู‚ูŽู„ููŠู’ู„ู‹ุง ุ• ููŽูˆูŽูŠู’ู„ูŒ ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ู…ู‘ูู…ู‘ูŽุง ูƒูŽุชูŽุจูŽุชู’ ุงูŽูŠู’ุฏููŠู’ู‡ูู…ู’ ูˆูŽูˆูŽูŠู’ู„ูŒ ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ู…ู‘ูู…ู‘ูŽุง ูŠูŽูƒู’ุณูุจููˆู’ู†ูŽ

        So woe to those who write the “scripture” with their own hands, then say, “This is from Allah,” in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.

        And here is what it says in Sahih Bukhari:

        Narrated `Ikrima:

        Ibn `Abbas said, “How can you ask the people of the Scriptures about their Books while you have Allah’s Book (the Qur’an) which is the most recent of the Books revealed by Allah, and you read it in its pure undistorted form?”

        Know your place, dummy. I know my religion. You know nothing.

        Lol, the only liar here is you, not to mention completely ignorant. Christians had a 1000 year headstart? Lol, who taught you history, moron? Islam started in the year 610 CE. Go read a book! ๐Ÿ˜‚

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      5. I’m trying to tell you that murder and genocide does NOT come from religion but from politicians.

        I have clear cut proofs on my website to show you that murder comes from politicians and NOT from religion.

        But I doubt you would accept the clear cut proofs since you want to find excuses just to attack us and Islam constantly!!!

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      6. “Iโ€™m trying to tell you that murder and genocide does NOT come from religion but from politicians.”

        and you are lying, how not surprising. You have no proofs on your website, you have false claims made to try to whitewash your religion. Considering the evidence, your god has no problems with muslims murdering muslims and Muslims murdering people of other religions. Alas, poor god is impotent or imaginary or murderous.

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      7. lool, the only liar is YOU!!!

        By the way, I don’t lie as lying goes against my religion and I try my best to tell the truth.

        Is that the best claim you can come up with!? I’m making false claims!???

        Have you at least checked my sources of you to make these claims!?

        You are a moron who thinks genocide and murder comes from religion….

        You are another arrogant hater and arrogant denial…. All I can do is pray for God Almighty To guide you and give you mind because you don’t have any mind.

        I’m convinced you disbelievers are 100% liars and deceivers and arrogant haters and we Muslims are truth revealers

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      8. Alex, you are a failure and you do lie. Christians also tell me they donโ€™tโ€™ lie because of their religion and that isnโ€™t true either.

        You are indeed making false claims. Iโ€™ve checked your claims and find they are nonsense since I know that killing nonbelievers and each other is done with uncommon frequency by muslims. Christians would do the same if we didnโ€™t have secular laws in our countries.

        Genocide and murder do come from religion. And your prayer will do nothing as all prayers do. So what is the problem, Alex? That your god loves me as I am? That your god finds you wanting? Or that your god simply doesnโ€™t exist?

        So what about what you are convinced of? It isnโ€™t true.

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      9. Hey buddy,

        You are getting into my nerves!!!

        I’m convinced that you guys are liars and deceivers, and I have seen that.

        that’s it, you’re a waste of my time and by the way terrorists are NOT Muslims!!

        And there’s absolutely no verse in The Glorious Quran which promotes murder and genocide what Allah Almighty Says is as following:

        “Fight those who fight you, but do not transgress, for Allah does not love transgressors”

        And Fitnah means Tribulation that’s the literal meaning of it and I swear by God it does NOT mean disbelief and polytheism.

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      10. and just more baseless opinion.

        Some terrorists are indeed Muslims. They do their prayers just like you. You are doing like so many Christians do, insisting hat anyone who doesn’t agree with you isn’t really a true believer. That’s just trying to again whitewash what believers do.

        who cares if you swear by an imaginary being?

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      11. Yep, that still holds dear. In religious texts and from your rather silly imams/priests/pastors, etc, we constantly see the encouragement to harm those who don’t agree with you.

        and funny how this god remains silent and impotent.

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      12. ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ There it is again, folks! The troglodyte still can’t see the how idiotic her logic is! This specimen must be one of the dumbest atheists I have ever seen, and there alot of dumb ones out there.

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      13. ๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ˜ก

        ALL TERRORISTS ARE HYPOCRITES AND NOT MUSLIMS!!!!!! And all terrorists are going against Quran and Sunnah!!!!!!!!

        Wait wait, once I graduate from high school, I’ll refute and debunk terrorists and I will keep exposing these bastards. Just wait! Have patience and you shall see ultimate refutation against terrorists and you will see that they go against Quran and Sunnah.

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      14. and every theist who sees theists doing somethign they don’t approve of has to lie and claim they aren’t “really” theists.

        Alas, it doesn’t work that way. Your god has no problem with them at all since it does not stop them.

        Oh high school, hmmm? Sure you will, Alex. You can’t now and you won’t be able to then with your refusal to accept that your religion isn’t the religion of peace you want to pretend it is.

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      15. Yes I will show you, but now I can’t as I’m busy with exams.

        I’m refusing to accept your nonsense and false claims which you make against Islam.

        You are irrational and illogic

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      16. “Yes I will show you, but now I canโ€™t as Iโ€™m busy with exams.
        Iโ€™m refusing to accept your nonsense and false claims which you make against Islam.
        You are irrational and illogic”

        and there goes the lie of every failed theist. I hope you aren’t taking exams on English.

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      17. “Hmmm, funny how the Taliban just shot commandos, muslims who were trying to surrender. Sunnis and Shiโ€™ites have repeatedly killed one another over their differences. Pakistan is notorious for the killing between the sects.”

        Well…”megalomaniacs”?

        ‘Both promote killing all through the Torah they are based on to kill the non-believer. Shall I quote verses to you?”

        First prove that we hold the Torah as authoritative smh

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      18. If you’re so educated on our religion as you claim, stop alluding to politics which you don’t understand clearly, and are ignorant of, and bring us something from within Islam proving violence against every person on the street as you make it out to be, or maybe you can’t and just use politics for confirmation bias?

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      19. are you talking to me?

        Because I can’t tell to whom you’re talking to.

        Any case, I got my proofs that killing comes from politicians and NOT from religion. Do you want me to give you clear cut proofs?

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      20. stewjo004

        @ Club

        “show that muslims have no problem lying.”

        But you have yet to respond to my lonely post at the bottom about Communism being an atheist idealogy?

        “So much for Islam being worth anything at all.”

        I mean other than being a part of the end of history sure.

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      1. stewjo004

        @club

        That’s not “changing the subject” you’re insulting someone who’s at the minimum bilingual (and thus more intelligent at communicating than you just on that fact alon) while you more than likely are just some southern redneck who can barely speak the Queen’s English herself.

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      2. “Someoneโ€™s incompetence doesnโ€™t mean that I must be better than they are.”

        Oh you’re definitely not, even logic-wise…should be obvious by now….

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  2. stewjo004

    @ clubschadenfreude

    1. We don’t hold the Pentateuch or Hebrew Bible as authoritative, also the Quran clearly condemns the Jews for going overboard in killing:

    “…But even after My Messengers came to them in succession with clear directions and proof, the majority of them continued to go overboard in killing throughout the land.” (5:32)

    So there’s the end of that.

    2. “Again, we have the megalomaniacs in China, Xi, et al, who may or may not be atheists…”

    The Chinese Communist Party are pure atheists no need to guess

    3. “Atheism does not lead to genocide since I am an atheist and have no desire to do that…”

    That is…super fallacious. Whether you’re a communist or not atheism bred communist philosophy just like you won’t allow religions to get away from what their idealogy caused by the same token we can switch this around and look at what your idealogy has produced then. You can’t just say every time “they were megalomaniacs” when points about you are brought up otherwise we can turn around and say the same exact thing.

    4. “Christans, well, they had a thousand year head start.”

    Uhhh…there’s a 600-year gap between Islam and Christianity…moving on

    5. As for christians and muslims, they have kill many just because of their religion and Christianity had a bit of a head start and empires behind them for a long while”

    This…actually doesn’t bode well for you. That means in the 300-year timeframe your idealogy has become more mainstream you’re already more than double our numbers who have a 1,000+ year headstart.

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    1. “300-year timeframe your idealogy has become more mainstream youโ€™re already more than double our numbers ”

      You can contract it further to 100 taking in mind Bolshevism and the Jiefang Zhanzheng which are like the swiping of the matchstick for the main massacres of atheism to follow

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  3. Caliph ibn mumthaz

    @clubschadenfreude
    Man you sure do spit some retarded crap and ignorant s**t for a person adhering to an ideology that promotes “rationality and reason” unlike religious people (which is just….. So stupid on many levels)

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  4. stewjo004

    @QB

    There’s no way someone is this stupid. Club seriously doesn’t know that the CCP consists entirely of atheists which is one of the entire points of communism to get rid of any dividing classes between people ๐Ÿคฆ. Also, I love how Club only responded to Alex someone with a series of psychological conditions instead of any of the 3 articulate responses to feel good about herself.

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    1. stewjo004

      @ Club
      Just so we can move forward now that weโ€™ve all got a good laugh:

      1.Founders of Communism:

      Karl Marx
      Karl Marx said “Religion is the opium of the people”.[1] Marx also stated: “Communism begins from the outset with atheism; but atheism is at first far from being communism; indeed, that atheism is still mostly an abstraction.”[2]

      Now to clarify his statement from Lenin:

      “A Marxist must be a materialist, i. e., an enemy of religion, but a dialectical materialist, i. e., one who treats the struggle against religion not in an abstract way, not on the basis of remote, purely theoretical, never varying preaching, but in a concrete way, on the basis of the class struggle which is going on in practice and is educating the masses more and better than anything else could.”[3]

      So basically an atheist is just someone like you who just talks stuff from the sidelines while Communism seeks to destroy it (which you have to at least at the minimum sympathize with) Speaking of which, why did Atheism just pop up all of the sudden in human history?๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค” Well…

      2. Spread of your ideology
      “According to the University of Cambridge, historically, the “most notable spread of atheism was achieved through the success of the 1917 Russian Revolution, which brought the Marxist-Leninists to power.”[10]

      Vitalij Lazarสนeviฤ Ginzburg, a Soviet physicist, wrote that the “Bolshevik communists were not merely atheists but, according to Lenin’s terminology, militant atheists.”[11] However, prior to this, the Reign of Terror of the French Revolution established an atheist state, with the official ideology being the Cult of Reason; during this time thousands of believers were suppressed and executed by the guillotine.[12] The French Revolution, in fact, had also been a massive inspiration for Karl Marx in forming Communism, in particular the events of the Reign of Terror, which he made clear not only that he intended to reenact, but in a Prussian newspaper, he also made clear that he intended to ensure that the violence as a result of the Communists would outclass even that of the Reign of Terror.”

      So congratulations you used violence to spread your beliefs ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

      3.Now the CCP
      Because youโ€™re apparently the only person who doesnโ€™t know the CCP is atheist

      In 1955, Chinese Communist leader Zhou Enlai declared, “We Communists are atheists”.[5] In 2014, the Communist Party of China reaffirmed that members of their party must be atheists.[6]

      So again congratulations world worshipper. ๐Ÿ™Œ

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  5. Caliph ibn mumthaz

    These atheists act like if religion and science are at war for a long time even though alot of scientific advancements are made my theologians, priests and theists in the case of the Greeks. To add more salt to the wound, the Catholic Church was the biggest patron of science in the medieval era the so called “dark ages” lol. Furthermore, Islamic scholars were on the forefront of scientific knowledge and even fields like philosophy as they preserved and studied the knowledge of the ancient Greeks.

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  6. With respect Faiz, I find it a touch misleading to say atheists are responsible for as much death as those caused by the more fanatical elements of religious followers over the centuries. Atheism merely means the absence of belief in deities. It isn’t a philosophy in itself.

    Communism is different. There are religious communists and atheist communists and agnostic communists. There are religious and atheist and agnostic capitalists. I will oppose Islamophobia to the hilt, as you are hopefully already aware, but organised religion has caused problems throughout history, and continues to cause problems today.

    Whilst at this point in my life I would describe myself as an agnostic, I find myself looking at the arguments and articles presented here: https://brucegerencser.net/ and here: http://www.creationtheory.org and I can’t find the comparison of Christianity’s evils throughout history, to atheism, remotely equivalent.

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    1. stewjo004

      @ Darth Timon

      Communism’s foundation is militant atheism to modify my point to Club:

      1.Founders of Communism:

      “Karl Marx
      Karl Marx said โ€œReligion is the opium of the peopleโ€.[1] Marx also stated: โ€œCommunism begins from the outset with atheism; but atheism is at first far from being communism; indeed, that atheism is still mostly an abstraction.โ€[2]

      Now to clarify his statement from Lenin:

      โ€œA Marxist must be a materialist, i. e., an enemy of religion, but a dialectical materialist, i. e., one who treats the struggle against religion not in an abstract way, not on the basis of remote, purely theoretical, never varying preaching, but in a concrete way, on the basis of the class struggle which is going on in practice and is educating the masses more and better than anything else could.โ€[3]

      So basically an atheist is just someone like you who just talks stuff from the sidelines while Communism seeks to destroy it (which you have to at least at the minimum sympathize with) Speaking of which, why did Atheism just pop up all of the sudden in human history?๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค”๐Ÿค” Wellโ€ฆ

      2. Spread of the ideology
      โ€œAccording to the University of Cambridge, historically, the โ€œmost notable spread of atheism was achieved through the success of the 1917 Russian Revolution, which brought the Marxist-Leninists to power.โ€[10]

      Vitalij Lazarสนeviฤ Ginzburg, a Soviet physicist, wrote that the โ€œBolshevik communists were not merely atheists but, according to Leninโ€™s terminology, militant atheists.โ€[11] However, prior to this, the Reign of Terror of the French Revolution established an atheist state, with the official ideology being the Cult of Reason; during this time thousands of believers were suppressed and executed by the guillotine.[12] The French Revolution, in fact, had also been a massive inspiration for Karl Marx in forming Communism, in particular the events of the Reign of Terror, which he made clear not only that he intended to reenact, but in a Prussian newspaper, he also made clear that he intended to ensure that the violence as a result of the Communists would outclass even that of the Reign of Terror.โ€

      3.Now the CCP
      Because youโ€™re apparently the only person who doesnโ€™t know the CCP is atheist

      In 1955, Chinese Communist leader Zhou Enlai declared, โ€œWe Communists are atheistsโ€.[5] In 2014, the Communist Party of China reaffirmed that members of their party must be atheists.[6]”

      So yes Communism was forged in atheistic thought and is a by-product of the system. More simply put “All communists are atheists but not all atheists are communists.”

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