Exposing Another Christian’s Deception on Deuteronomy 21:10-14

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Another Christian bites the dust on the law allowing rape and forced marriage in Deuteronomy 21.

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  1. mr.heathcliff

    yo faiz, do you think azazel is a demonic entity? one sacrifices goes to yhwh another la azazel?

    why the mention of two different things if they were all going to yhwh?

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      4. stewjo004

        @Mr.Heathciff

        I think you’re over thinking this. Kaffir Jews addopt some sort of Babylonian shayateen while in captivity in Babylon. They then write a story for it as their newest episode of fanfictionn and voila it has reached us today.

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  3. stewjo004

    @mr.Heathcliff

    Azazel is a shayateen that they took from the Babylonians and later claimed was an angel:

    “Azazel, in Jewish legends, a demon or evil spirit to whom, in the ancient rite of Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement), a scapegoat was sent bearing the sins of the Jewish people. Two male goats were chosen for the ritual, one designated by lots “for the Lord,” the other “for Azazel” (Leviticus 16:8). The ritual was carried out by the high priest in the Second Temple and is described in the Mishna. After the high priest symbolically transferred all the sins of the Jewish people to the scapegoat, the goat destined “for Azazel” was driven into the wilderness and cast over a precipice to its death. Azazel was the personification of uncleanness and in later rabbinic writings was sometimes described as a fallen angel.”
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Azazel

    “There have been efforts to compare the ritual of the goat to several customs of the ancient world. In Babylonia, for instance, it was customary on the festival of Akītu (the New Year) to give a goat as a substitute for a human being (pūḫ) to Ereshkigal (the goddess of the abyss). In an Akkadian magical inscription from the city of Assur which deals with the cure for a man who is unable to eat and drink, it is prescribed that a goat should be tied to his bed and that thus the sickness will pass to the goat. On the following morning, the goat is to be taken to the desert and decapitated. Its flesh is then cooked and put in a pit together with honey and oil, perhaps as an offering to the demons.”
    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/azazel

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  4. mr.heathcliff

    So.does this mean that the shayateen are receiving some kind of “animal payment” or is it just a ritual to cast away sins into wilderness?

    if to azazell and azzalel = shayateen, then shayateen are receiving an animal

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    1. You’re guess is as good as mine.

      Hey heathcliff, do me a favor. Find out what Ehrmany most up-to-date view on his blog is on the gospels’ view on Jesus’ divinity. I know he changed his view a little. Also, look for what Ehrman believes Jesus actually thought.

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      1. stewjo004

        @ QB

        My understanding from reading his work is he holds is that Isa(as) himself never claimed divinity but was an “apocalyptic prophet” who thought the “Son of Man” would come and destroy all the world governments bringing about God’s rule on Earth and that he would be the leader of that kingdom.

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      6. mr.heathcliff

        BDEhrman January 10, 2021 at 5:31 pm – Reply
        It used to be thought that Palestinian Jews and Hellenistic Jews were very different from each other. For about hte past 50 years scholars have realized that many Jews in Israel at the time were also heavily Hellenized. Probably the difference is not between Jews in Diaspora and Jews in Israel, but instead, upper-class educated urban Jews and lower-class uneducated rural Jews. There were massively more of the latter!

        https://ehrmanblog.org/the-god-jesus-in-competition/

        this is going to get interesting.

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  5. mr.heathcliff

    quote:
    At that time I had been making some initial sketches for this book, and was planning on writing about how Jesus became God as a purely internal Christian development, as a logical outgrowth of the teachings of Jesus as they developed after some of his followers came to believe he had been raised from the dead (as I’ll explain in later chapters). But I didn’t have a single thought of putting that development in relationship to what was going on in the outer world, beyond the bounds of the Christian tradition itself. And then I read an inscription lying outside a temple in Priene. The inscription referred to the God (Caesar) Augustus.

    And it hit me. Precisely at the time when Christianity arose, with its exalted claims about Jesus, is when the emperor cult had started to move into full swing, with its exalted claims about the emperor. Christians were calling Jesus God directly on the heels of the Romans calling the emperor God. Could this be a historical accident? How could it be an accident? These were not simply parallel developments. This was a competition. Who was the real God-man? The emperor or Jesus? I realized at that moment that the Christians were not elevating Jesus to a level of divinity in a vacuum. They were doing it under influence of and in dialogue with the environment in which they lived. As I said, I knew that others had thought this before. But it struck me at that moment like a bolt of lightning.

    I decided then and there to reconceptualize my book, and you are now reading the result. But an obvious problem also hit me, on the spot. The first Christians who started speaking about Jesus as divine were not pagans from Priene. They were Jews from Palestine. These Jews, of course, also knew about the emperor cult. In fact, it was practiced in some of the more Greek cities of Palestine in the first century. But the first followers of Jesus were not particularly imbued with Greek culture. They were Jews from rural and village parts of Galilee. It may be the case that later, after the Christian church became more heavily gentile, with pagan converts making up the majority of its members, the heightened emphasis on Jesus as God (rather than the emperor as God) made sense. But what about at the beginning?

    It is then that I started thinking about divine humans within Judaism.

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  6. mr.heathcliff

    Aman January 10, 2021 at 3:02 pm – Reply
    Dr. Bart I had recently read your book ”How Jesus became God” in comparison with another book entitled ”how God became Jesus”….and ur book and craig evans essay in different ways really informed me a lot about jesus’s self conception…my question is does the historical marry (mother of jesus) think jesus is some kind of divine?

    BDEhrman January 12, 2021 at 2:27 pm – Reply
    Do you mean the historical Mary herself? Almost certainly not.

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