Answering a Christian on the meaning of Deuteronomy 21:10-14 (psst…it implies rape)

2 thoughts on “Answering a Christian on the meaning of Deuteronomy 21:10-14 (psst…it implies rape)

  1. mr.heathcliff

    this and the “shivaisyhwh” talk a lot about “black stone”

    but then what about this :

    we see that idolatry is mocked in the jewish bible.

    “… those who do not see or hear…”

    but then we have verses like this

    numbers So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

    and this

    kings He removed the high places, smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles. He broke into pieces the bronze snake Moses had made, for up to that time the Israelites had been burning incense to it. (It was called Nehushtan.)

    In the mind of the author of numbers , it was okay to turn to a dead copper metal for a cure?


    fizzix_is_fun 16 points 3 years ago
    The basic idea is that the bronze serpent mentioned in Numbers and Kings represents an older cult (possibly associated with medicine and healing). It sort of got grandfathered in to standard practice, since it had been there forever. And to justify its existence in an aniconic culture, it was retrojected into the time of Moses. Nevertheless, support for it had died out in the time of Hezekiah, and it was removed.

    This paper is a bit dated, but relevant.

    Some excerpts:

    The Israelite cult at Jerusalem was not unique in its utilization of a bronze serpent, for at least seven such serpents have come from various pre-Israelite Palestinian cities. Two were uncovered at Megiddo, one at Gezer, two in the “holy of holies” of the Area H temple at Hazor, and two at Shechem. Most of them lay in Late Bronze Age cultic areas, but the phenomenon of the cultic bronze serpent was limited neither to Palestine nor to the second millennium B.C.


    Although the serpent was associated in the Ancient Near East with the restoration of life, the most prominent element in the tradition of Moses and the bronze serpent seems to be that of sympathetic magic- the belief that the fate of an object or person can be governed by the manipulation of its exact image. Thereby a representation of a noxious creature could best drive off that creature, and an adversary could most effectively be controlled by the manipulation of his exact image.

    The Egyptians frequently defended themselves against the serpent by the use of its image… In Egypt a serpent-shaped amulet often was placed on mummies to prevent their being attacked by serpents and other reptiles of the underworld…



  2. mr.heathcliff

    hey erik, are you reading this post ? invite shivaisyhwh here ,

    i would like to ask

    as long as a person goes to an idol known for its magic for healing purposes, is it allowed?


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