An excellent video by brother Osama Yamani, exposing the liar and pseudo-scholar Jay “Where’s my ham?” Smith. Smith really embarrassed himself! 😂😂
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An excellent video by brother Osama Yamani, exposing the liar and pseudo-scholar Jay “Where’s my ham?” Smith. Smith really embarrassed himself! 😂😂
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hey dude. On islamqa, they define a yazidi as a deviant islamic sect that tried to remove the curse of the satan astaghfirullah. However i searched yazidism on google and it seemed to be a more ancient religion with ties to ancient mesopotamian religions that believe in a single deity and doesnt believe in a concept of hell. Which one of them is true about actual yazidis? I know this seems to be a random question but you seemed to be a comparatibe religion enthusiast so i thpught i should ask you. Feel free to link some sources.
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I haven’t studied Yazidism.
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@Mishal
The problem with learning about the Yazidi religion is that so much of the information about them is either unknown or contradictory online. On the issue of them being called devil worshipers, though they themselves and aspects of their theology deny this(for what think should be obvious reasons) from an Islamic point of view the criticism seems to be pretty apt. Melek Taus or peacock angel (who they may or may not worship) is said to be an entity (usually an angel type being) who refused to bow to the first man Adam(a.s). If this is what they truly believe then that alone should tell you why we feel that it’s actually the devil from our point of view they pay reverence too. Them being older than us(which I think is also disputed considering their founder/reformer is Sheikh Adi) does nothing to change that fact and the divine truth. In the same way certain pagan religions or the Christian view of the trinity is older than us in terms of literal founding is not older than the divine truth about God, who he is and everything else.
I should clarify that having said that I do not support or condone in anyway the genocide they are going through right now for their beliefs. Criticism is one thing and persecution is another.
Some links to get a feel for the religion and people would be this
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/yazidi-religious-beliefs_n_5671903
which includes a lot of other links and resources but some contain info which is contradictory so take it with a grain of salt. Regardless I think it’s still useful.
Another would be this
https://www.yezidisinternational.org/
which appears to be more official. Search around the site for the info your looking for.
Why the sudden interest in their faith if I may ask?
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The reason is to see if what islamqa says about the yazidis is true or not and whether if they are a deviant islamic sect or a more ancient religion. Thanks for clarifying that akhi. Is there any criticisms pointed towards the faith? How does it hold up when it comes to the soundness of their beliefs, practices and doctrine? Also note that im not doubting aboit islam btw. Im just curious and want to increase my faith further.
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@Mishal
Is this the Islamqa fatwa you are referring to?
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/203158/is-it-permissible-to-marry-a-yazidi-woman
Because if it is then I can say some of what is contained in the fatwa seems to said elsewhere in other sources but some of what is said, like the connections to Yazid ibn Mu‘aawiyah are disputed. It depends on how you would define an Islamic sect. From what I gather they take from a bunch of religions, Islam included. So clearly not all of their beliefs are ancient. If you mean whether or not it started as an Islamic sect, well that would depend on how much their founder/reformer Sheikh Adi contributed to the belief system. Although it’s possible a more ancient religion was there before him its difficult to tell with so much unknown and contradictory info online.
As for criticisms, from an islamic point of view it would have to be there supposed worship of their founder/reformer, Melek Taus or peacock angel, as well as six other angels along with the supreme God. There’s also the issue of supposed nature worship.
Heres another link. This one was one of resources used in one of the links I shared earlier but looks less official so take it with a grain of salt. Most of what is contained seems to be corroborated with other sources but still be skeptical.
http://www.yeziditruth.org/
Don’t worry I’m not doubting your Islam and I totally get researching other faiths to increase ones iman. I basically do the same thing but with Christianity and Judaism. That being said the best way to increase one’s faith further would probably be within the religion itself. Criticizing/examining other faiths can only take you so far. The true beauty of Islam comes from examining the deen itself and all that entails.
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yeah thanks man. Can you explain to me the rights and the overall rulings with regards to concubinage and concubines? I know this seems a strange question as nowadays concubinage is rare but im just curious of the islamic view on concubinage. You can link some sources but a small summary can do fine. Jazakallahu khair
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@Mishal
That line of questions would be better sent to scholar. lest I accidently say something misinformed and confuse you.
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oh well can you send these questions to a scholar you know to be trustworthy and have the expertise? I dont know alot of scholars as im still a kid. You can link some sources if ya want.
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@ Mishal
As noted this is heavily disputed but I would like to add some caveats to this discussions (as a note I am not a scholar but am in school to become one inshaAllah):
1. Are they a deviant sect?
Well…yes and no. While there is no doubt their founder is a deviant, that doesn’t necessarily mean they themselves are. How so? For the simple reason, they do not claim to be Muslims nor do they follow the Quran or Sunnah. Personally, I’m not gonna debate someone saying they are not Muslim and go “no you are just a deviant sect!” They are a completely different situation then say Qadianis (who believe in another prophet after Muhammad(saw)) or Rafidi (aka “Twelvers” who give divine attributes to humans and pray to them) These groups claim they are following “true Islam” and thus are a form of apostates while these people admit to being kuffar. Imo Jizya should be taken from them like the Zoroastrians and we keep it moving.
2. Their religion and being devil worshippers
Here is an overview of their creation story:
http://www.yeziditruth.org/the_peacock_angel
I think their founder combined some aspects of Islam with an ancient Mesopotamian religion. Imo they they ARE Shaytan worshippers, however. How so?
Even though they identify Malek with Jibreel its clear that this is Shaytan and they say one of his names is Iblis.
“Considered devil worshipers by the majority Muslim population in the region, the Yazidis believe that Melek Taus, who they also refer to as Iblis, coincidentally one of the Arabic names for Satan, was thrown into hell by Yasdan for 40,000 years. Similar to the Islamic tradition of the fall of Lucifer, Melek Taus was banished for his refusal to bow down to Adam, although the Yazidi version differs in its understanding that eventually Iblis regained favour with Yasdan. After Iblis repented, his tears “quench[ing] the fires of the underworld”, he regained favour with Yasdan and was reinstated as Chief of the Angels. Today, the Yazidis believe that there is no heaven or hell, but rather, all men have the capacity for good and evil.
https://natoassociation.ca/the-yazidis-their-beliefs-and-the-basis-of-the-islamic-state-led-genocide/
So like we call Christians “Cross worshippers” and Zoroastrians “Fire worshippers” I have no problem calling Yazidis “Devil worshippers” as their beliefs like the ones above is just a bunch of nonsense. So we couldn’t eat their meat, marry their women, pray for them when they die etc.
3. Concubines
A pretty nuanced topic. Any specifics you’re interested in?
(Note in the case of ISIS taking their women as concubines I would say this is haram because they had already made peace treaties with the Iraqi government (and even before that with Sultans) WAY before they showed up on the scene.)
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@Stew
Wouldn’t it be haram in the first place anyway since their Yazidis?
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@vaqas
From my understanding, mushrikeen women can be made concubines. For example:
Narrated Ibn Muhairiz:
I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Sa`id said, “We went out with Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, ‘How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) who is present among us?” We asked (him) about it and he said, ‘It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist.”
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/182
Banu Mustaliq is Juwariya’s(ra) tribe and I am like 95% sure they were pagans.
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I’m specifically interested in the rights of concubines like should you spend the night with them on a regular basis like wives or are they entitled to own property, etc.
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Are they just wives but halved? Like I heard if you spend 2 nights with your wife then you’re supposed to spend 1 night with a concubine. Is this true?
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@mishal
Pt. 1
She is in a lesser position than a wife (and yes technically property). From my understanding, there are no “sharing days” like with wives you can come through whenever you want and is basically as close as you can ever get to having a “halal girlfriend”. You can have as many as you can afford and they are mainly distributed to fighters if the amir decides to or bought from someone else.
This is to keep it frank, it’s a punishment on an enemy nation for fighting against the Muslims and a reward for the fighters. Quoting Shaykh al-Shanqeet
Islam limited the sources of slaves which existed before the mission of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to just one source, namely slavery resulting from capturing prisoners from among the kuffaar. Shaykh al-Shanqeeti (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The reason why a person may be taken as a slave is his being a kaafir and waging war against Allaah and His Messenger. If Allaah enables the Muslims who are striving and sacrificing their lives and their wealth and all that Allaah has given them to make the word of Allaah supreme over the kaafirs, then He allows them to enslave the kuffaar when they capture them, unless the ruler chooses to free them or to ransom them, if that serves the interests of the Muslims.
Adwa’ al-Bayaan, 3/387
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/12562/what-is-a-right-hand-servant-does-the-owner-of-a-right-hand-servant-have-to-be-married
As for spending, it would be the same as with any slave food, clothing, and shelter. Regarding rights:
1. Even though you guys can “do it” contrary to kuffar claims you can’t rape them. Basically its a “if you guys decide to engage in a sexual relationship its permissible” not you DEFINITELY will do it type of thing.
“And Safiyya bint ‘Ubaid said:
“A governmental male-slave tried to seduce a slave-girl from the Khumus of the war booty till he deflowered her by force against her will; therefore ‘Umar flogged him according to the law, and exiled him, but he did not flog the female slave because the male-slave had committed illegal sexual intercourse by force, against her will.”https://sunnah.com/bukhari/89/10
2. Since we’re discussing this aspect, if she gets pregnant by you she upgrades in status to “Umm Walad” (mother of the child) which means she can’t be sold to anyone and becomes free automatically at your death. Also, like a wife you can’t use contraception (i.e. condoms, birth control, pull out etc) without her approval:https://islamqa.info/en/answers/20802/intercourse-with-a-slave-woman-is-not-regarded-as-zina-adultery
3. Mukataba (diffrence of opinion)
Even though there is scholarly debate with some going obligatory others sunnah, you make a specific contract with them on the amount of work they must do until they’re free.
4. Cannot strike to the face (automatic freeing)
Hilal b. Yasaf reported that a person got angry and slapped his slave-girl. Thereupon Suwaid b. Muqarrin said to him:
You could find no other part (to slap) but the prominent part of her face. See I was one of the seven sons of Muqarrin, and we had but only one slave-girl. The youngest of us slapped her, and Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) commanded us to set her free. 2https://sunnah.com/muslim/27/50
Some more reading:https://islamqa.info/en/answers/12562/what-is-a-right-hand-servant-does-the-owner-of-a-right-hand-servant-have-to-be-married
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/26067/he-hired-a-woman-to-serve-him-then-he-agreed-with-her-that-she-would-be-his-slave
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thanks for being honest as i have seen others being kinda uneasy about the topic. I cant exactly blame them as nowadays slavery is heavily stigmatised and demonized so yeah. So concubines are basically islam’s version of a purely sexual rekationship with also legal protections, etc. Am i correct in this regard? Also what are the wisdoms behind the instituition of concubinage in islam? I know that ultimately the full knowledge and wisdom is with Allah alone but you would agree that finding the wisdom behind the rulings help oneself to increase in faith and certainty as well. Imagine im the scenario the islamic istituition of concubinage still existed, is it blameworthy for one to own many concubines and to “do it”? Forgive me if this is abit strange and inapropriate but Allah is not shy to tell the truth. If in the scenario you camt able to establish a sexual relationship with a concubine due to reasons like one’s or her health problems or she cant cope with being in this type of relationship with her master, what should you do? Also what is islam’s position on slavery? I know its permitted and its not exactly encouraged but ive seen some scholars and brothers like abu amina elias say that the permissability of slavery is only temporary and that it was a way for the istitution to be gradually abolished as slavery was so embedded in society at the time. Im not exactly convinced by this as the prophet muhammad pbuh had abolished other practices that had been embedded in society such as the horrific practices regarding women. What is the majority of scholar’s and the most correct opinion regarding the instituition of slavery in general. Forgive me for askimg too much questions but inshaallah i hope you cam answer all these questions to the best of your knowledge and ability. May Allah reward you with good and
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@ Mishal
Ameen and may He reward you as well.
Nope, not uncomfortable at all, people just have to do what you’re doing and just study things more. Now here’s my thing, it’s not necessarily sexual; she could be just a regular slave (cooks, cleans etc). Even though this is gross I just want to make a point, theoretically, if there was a 50-year-old slave of yours who found you attractive and hit on you, there is nothing haram if you didn’t fight off her advances. Does this mean you WILL have sex with the 50-year-old? No, it’s just a “it’s not haram” type of thing. What I’m translating as “concubines” is no different than male slaves except you guys have the option of having sex if your transaction leads you down that route. If she couldn’t or didn’t want to have sex you would just have her work as a servant in the house or something.
Regarding the wisdom behind it, a lot quite frankly:
1. Dawah to the defeated enemy
This combined with the ayah is the reason I take the position its obligatory to make the contract of freedom)
Many prisoners of war (which concubines are a category of) usually ended up becoming Muslim. This could be one of the reasons why the Prophet (ﷺ) said, “Allah wonders at those people who will enter Paradise in chains.”
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/56/219
ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (note in Arabic) notes:
He says ibn al-Jawzi says that this refers to people who fought Muslims and ended up as prisoners of war and lived and witnessed the Muslims, then believed and converted to Islam.
While Ibrahim al-Harbi says something similar that the chains are not literal but a metaphor to guidance to Islam by force.
Now note there are several opinions on this hadith (with one being it’s actually Muslim POWs) but we are just discussing possible wisdom.
https://islamweb.net/ar/library/index.php?page=bookcontents&ID=1916&idfrom=5477&idto=5478&flag=0&bk_no=52&ayano=0&surano=0&bookhad=0
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2. Social Status and integration (kinda combines with point 1)
If you look at many of these ahadith it really encourages you to marry them (also keep in mind two of the Prophet’s(saw) wives Safyyah(ra) and Juwariyyah(ra) were technically his slaves and he freed them for their dowry.
Ignoring the POW side of things many of these slave girls in the Prophet’s(saw) time were already prostitutes before Islam and this was a way to elevate their social status. A lot of people don’t know this aspect but yes there were prostitutes in Madinah late into the seerah (I believe 8 ah is when it was banned) Examples of what I said, first the ayah about the leader of the hypocrites Abdullah ibn Ubayy and what he was doing:
“Those who are unable to find any means to marry should remain abstinent until God gives them enough out of His riches. If any of your slaves wish to pay for their freedom, make a contract with them accordingly, if you know they have good in them, and give them some of the wealth God has bestowed on you. Do not force your slave-girls into prostitution, when they themselves wish to remain honorable, in order to make a short-term gain of the worldly life. But if someone still forces them, God will be forgiving and merciful on ˹her˺. (24:33)
So again notice Allah is telling the Muslims to make contracts for their freedom and don’t pimp them (which is what some people were doing before Islam) And not only that give them some money to start a new life when they get their freedom. The rules created as I said elevate their social status and integrate them into society (hence why they can’t be sold etc if she gets pregnant and that is no doubt your child who inherits from you etc) This is why you see ahadith encouraging marriage:
Narrated Abu Burda’s father:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “Three persons will get their reward twice. (One is) a person who has a slave girl and he educates her properly and teaches her good manners properly (without violence) and then manumits and marries her. Such a person will get a double reward. (Another is) a believer from the people of the scriptures who has been a true believer and then he believes in the Prophet (ﷺ) (Muhammad). Such a person will get a double reward. (The third is) a slave who observes Allah’s Rights and Obligations and is sincere to his master.”https://sunnah.com/bukhari/56/220
So pause why are they encouraged to teach them manners, be kind and then marry them? Integration. This is why you clothe slaves with what you yourself wear as well:https://sunnah.com/adab/9/32
Final proof for this:
Narrated Kuraib: the freed slave of Ibn `Abbas, that Maimuna bint Al-Harith told him that she manumitted a slave-girl without taking the permission of the Prophet. On the day when it was her turn to be with the Prophet, she said, “Do you know, O Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ), that I have manumitted my slave-girl?” He said, “Have you really?” She replied in the affirmative. He said, “You would have got more reward if you had given her (i.e. the slave-girl) to one of your maternal uncles.”https://sunnah.com/bukhari/51/26
Again pause. Why would she have gotten more of a reward for giving her to her uncle as opposed to freeing her which we know carries a HUGE reward in Islam?https://sunnah.com/bukhari/49/1
Maimunah’s(ra) tribe was EXTREMELY wealthy and she would have had a better quality of life and then freed when she became pregnant
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3. More Muslims
Pretty obvious the Ummah gets larger which means more taxes, worshippers, soldiers yada, yada, yada
4. Halal means for someone who doesn’t have the means for a wife.
Again obvious.
5. Cheap manual labor for the economy
Again obvious
Regarding Islam would free all, ehhhh…I kinda agree/ disagree (if that make sense lol). It DEFINITELY reduced the means but I don’t like saying it like this asbecause if Allah wants to ban something He’ll do it without fearing the consequences. Now their argument is interesting that conceptually all slaves would eventually be free at one point in history due to the categories of Zakah in the ayah:
Charity is meant only for the poor, the needy, the people who assess and distribute it, those whose hearts need winning over, those whose necks are chained in either SLAVERY or debt, those fighting in God’s cause and for travelers in need. This is a prescription from God because God is All Knowing and Wise. (9:60)
Now no matter which opinion you side with on the distribution of 8 categories of zakah (either order of importance, first all the poor, then all the needy, then all collectors etc) or that you spread it across all the categories (so some to the poor, some to the needy, some to the collectors) eventually you’re going to start freeing slaves. When you combine this with the many sins having you free slaves it was going to make it almost nonexistent (except war time but eventually they’d get free too) While this works the only issue I take is that we know in Isa(as) and the Mahdi’s time we will fight again and so there is the chance of taking slaves. Now with that being said, I agree with ibn Uthaymeen who said when asked in the Serbian/Bosnian war about this that we shouldn’t open this door unless the kuffar do so they can’t use propaganda against us but even though Islam SEVERLY hampered the institution I personally wouldn’t say Islam came to “remove” slavery entirely as the option is technically always on the table if we need it.
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@ Mishal
Sorry, part 2 got cut off I have to wait for QB to approve it.
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Done.
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Thanks man for answering the questions. Man there are alot more wisdom to concubinage than i thought. In islamqa, theres this ruling that says that women cant be elected in offices like a caliph or commander etc. Why is it so? I dont have an issue with it its just there are women who can be great leaders so i wonder why this ruling is in effect?
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I’ve heard the clip and Dr. Jay Smith is not refuted in anything important. The life of the prophet was writen 200+ after his death… And so many other aspects that show that islam like any other religion is a construction and subject to criticism.
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Smh
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