Another Christian apologist crashes and burns in front of Mohammed Hjiab! Allahu Akbar!
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Another Christian apologist crashes and burns in front of Mohammed Hjiab! Allahu Akbar!
The Quran and Bible Blog 
Paper boy actually demonstrated by this argument that Deuteronomy 18:18 does not apply to Jesus. Paper boy was trying to refute Jesus could not have been a Prophet purely because he never claimed it himself throughout the NT, then its evident Deuteronomy 18 by no shape of form would fit Jesus who never claimed to be part of the prophethood.
The whole message of Deuteronomy 18 was to identify a true prophet, but since if Paperboy insists his Jesus was not a Prophet then we can dismiss any link to Jesus connected to Deuteronomy. Thank to you Paper boy, decades of debate between Muslims and Christians on who was Deuteronomy 18:18 referring to has been answered by you
Case closed
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I can’t get how people can remain Christian. They don’t have one good argument for their religion and usually end up shooting themselves in the foot.
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@ QB
it has some pieces of revelation in it. Since that is Truth, I’ll just accept the rest and really, really believe.
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Check out this brother’s epic refutation of Paperboy. He’s up to 7 parts so far.
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basic common sense God has given us is that when A and B is identified as two different things, then we know A is not B
DID the father ever say, ” i was DEAD” ?
if the father is identified as experiencing his “everlivingness” and the son experiencing life taken away from him, then we have two, not one.
“i am the first and last” never IDENTIFIES jesus with yhwh.
“i am the first and last and I WAS DEAD” never identifies jesus with yhwh
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4. The First and the Last was Dead: Yahweh was DEAD?
An insurmountable problem for Trinitarians is that that the first and the last indicates he was dead. Observe what Jesus says at Revelation 1:17ff.
17 When I saw him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. And he placed his right hand on me, saying, “Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.
He has the keys of death and of Hades. God is not a God of the dead but of the living. However, Jesus is Lord of the living and the dead because he overcame death and conquered death.
Now if “the first and the last” is a title for Yahweh, then Yahweh was dead. However, the Bible tells us this is impossible. Yahweh is intrinsically immortal (see 1 Tim 6:16; compare 2 Cor 13:4). When you are immortal it means you cannot die and cannot be dead. If you died and are dead it means you are dead because you are mortal and not immortal. However, Yahweh is immortal. The first and the last at Revelation 1:17 was dead. Yahweh is immortal and cannot die or be dead. Therefore, it is quite impossible to identify the first and the last as Yahweh or vice versa. The Trinitarian claim is thereby proven false.
In Trinitarianism, it is routinely claimed that Jesus is either speaking according to his divine nature or to his human nature, as God vs. as a man. The impossibility of their claim here is demonstrated by asking the question, “Is Jesus speaking according to his divine nature or his human nature?” They must claim he was speaking according to his divine nature to claim he was claiming to be Yahweh by saying he is “the First and the Last.” However, they create their dilemma for themselves since Jesus would also be speaking according to his divine nature when he said he was DEAD. By implication, that would mean Yahweh said he was dead and was speaking according to his divine nature when he said it. Absurd. The Trinitarian is caught in his own contradictions whether he says Jesus is speaking according to his divine nature or whether he says he was speaking to his human nature.
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Excellent point brother! I would add that the same point can be made whenever Christians make the “hierarchy” argument when discussing Mark 13:32.
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