بِسْمِ اللهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِيْم
….the disbelievers seek to refute the Truth using worthless arguments and took My signs and warnings as something to mock. (18:56)
So this blog post is a response to an article written by Shamoun (who you may remember has been refuted several times on the blog here, here and here) For simplicity sake the premise of their argument in the article Is the “Torah like the Qur’an, or is it not?” is as follows:
The Quran challenges mankind to bring something like it. The Torah is like it therefore the challenge has been answered.
Furthermore, because the Torah is like the Quran it must be perfectly preserved otherwise how could human additions be confused by the pagan Arabs as “magic” due to the Torah’s eloquence in Q. 28:48-49, Q.46:7-12, and Q.74:24-25?
Well, once again our opponents never fail to show their lack of reading comprehension. Let’s first pull up the verse of the challenge real quick with some emphasis:
“If any are in doubt about what I have sent down upon My servant, then compose a chapter that is anything like this and call on any of the experts or supporters that you have except for God, if you’re telling the truth.” * 
“Or is this the case that they’re claiming: “He has made it all up?” Tell them: “Then compose just one chapter like it, and call on anyone you like to help you except God if you’re telling the truth.” 
Or are they claiming: “He has made all this up?” Tell them: “Then bring ten chapters like it that you’ve made up, and call whoever you want ˹to help you˺ except for God if you’re telling the truth.” 
“Tell them: “If every human being and jinn worked together, they could not produce something like this Qur’an. Even if some acted as backup for the others, collaborating as best they could.” 
“Or are they saying: “He’s just made this all up?” No, rather the fact is they simply do not want to believe. Let them then produce a speech like this, if their claim has truth to it.” 
Since both books are from the same author (in this case God) mankind has not produced a text equal to God’s writing. Now that premise one has been answered, simple enough. So now what about the second part of their premise concerning corruption and magic?
They start by quoting Ibn Kathir not realizing that not only does he disagree, but refutes their whole argument. I’ll just underline the other part of the sentence they seemed to have missed before demonstrating the duo’s poor research about what the pagan Arabs were talking about:
“the previous Scriptures that were revealed to the Prophets before me all testify to its truthfulness and authenticity. They have prophecied, well in advance, about things similar to that which this Qur’an informs of…” 
So starting off their reference quoted regarding this passage has nothing to do with “eloquence” this was just one of those ever so notorious “reading in between the lines’ fallacies that their team does. Before getting into the meat of the discussion, some common sense is in order:
- How would the Arabs even understand the Torah to determine its eloquence to begin with? The Torah was in Hebrew while they spoke Arabic so the premise of their argument doesn’t even make sense at inception.
- None of the above passages say anything about eloquence (though we can assume the original Torah was because God’s speech is perfect) nor does it challenge them to “bring a chapter like the Quran or Torah ” it says something much different which will get to in a sec.
What they’re doing is reading what they want into the text as opposed to researching if the Quran in other places explains what the pagan Arabs are calling “magic” about it. So are their verses to give us more insight into what they’re talking about? Why yes there is:
It’s He who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and His Throne was over water, in order to test which of you does better in their actions. Yet, if you tell them: “You’re going to be raised back up after death has come.” The disbelievers are sure to answer: “This is clearly nothing but magic.” 
But you’re amazed, while they mock, and when they’re reminded, they pay no attention, when they see a sign from God, they find a reason to make fun of it. They say: “This is obviously nothing more than magic. When we’re dead and gone, we’re then going to be resurrected, along with our ancestors?” 
The deniers are damned that Day. The same ones playing around in pointless activities. The Day they will be ruthlessly cast into the Fire, it will be said: “This is the Fire, which you used to constantly deny.” So is this magic? Or can you still not see? Now burn in it! Whether you bear it patiently or don’t, it’s all the same for you. You’re only being rewarded for what you used to do.” 
So as can clearly be seen the pagan Arabs are calling the concept of being resurrected for judgment “magic”. Even if one reads the passages they quoted it can clearly be seen that’s what’s being referred to:
“Who’s more lost than the one who calls on, instead of God, those who will never respond to them until the Day of Resurrection; who’s unaware of their prayers, and will deny their worship becoming their greatest enemies when mankind is gathered? When My verses are recited to them as clear evidence, those who disbelieve say about the Truth when it comes to them: “This is clearly just magic.” Or do they say: “He has made all this up?” Tell them: “If I have made all this up, you won’t be able to do anything to save me from God’s punishment. God knows whatever you utter about it and He is enough to act as a witness between you and I because He is the Most Forgiving and Merciful.” Tell them: “I am not something new among God’s Messengers, nor do I know what will be done with you or I. I only follow what’s revealed to me, ˹and˺ My duty is only to clearly warn you.” Ask them: “Have you thought about this? What if the Qur’an was from God, and you reject it, even though a witness from among the Children of Israel has already testified to something similar, and believed while you were too arrogant?” God doesn’t guide the people that do evil. Those who’ve disbelieved say about those who’ve believed: “If it had been any good to believe in this Book, they wouldn’t have believed in it before we did.” And when they refused to be guided by it, claim: “This is just the same lie from ancient times.” Before this was the Book of Moses as a guide and mercy, and this is a Book verifying it in the Arabic tongue to warn those who do evil as well as congratulate those who do good. . Have no doubt, those who say: “Our Lord is God” and then stay firm, will have no fear, nor will they know any long-lasting sorrow. They are the people of the Garden, there to stay forever as a reward for what they used to do. 
Furthermore, if they paid attention to the verses they quoted, what God tells Muhammad(saw) to say to the pagans further supports this conclusion:
“…Then produce a book from God that is a better guide than these two…”
Again it doesn’t say “produce a chapter like these two” it says produce a book that is a better guide. If one compares this in other chapters like Surah Saba:
He knows all that goes into the earth and all that comes out of it. He knows all that comes down from the heavens and all that goes up to them. And He is the Forever Merciful and the Most Forgiving. But still, the disbelievers say: “The Hour will never come to us.” Tell them: “Yes, I swear on my Lord, it will, by Him who knows all that’s in the Beyond.” Not even a particle in the heavens or earth escapes His knowledge, nor anything smaller or larger. It’s all recorded in a clear Record, so that He can reward those who believe and do good. And they will have forgiveness and a generous arrangement.But as for those who work against My revelations, seeking to undermine them, there will be a suffering of intense disturbance. Those who’ve been given knowledge can see that what’s been sent to you from your Lord is the Truth, and that it leads to the path of the Almighty, the One who is praised due to His very existence. But the disbelievers mock: “Would you like us to show you a man who will tell you that, when you’ve been shredded into pieces, you will be created again good as new?” Has he made up lies about God? Has he gone mad? No! Rather it’s those who don’t believe in the life to come who will suffer punishment and are in utter misguidance. 
Like before they are mocking the concept of being resurrected but the end of the passage speaks about misguidance. Now, let’s bring it back to the end of Surah Qasas that they quoted with God finishing up the discussion:
“He is God; there is none to be worshipped and obeyed but Him. All the praise and gratitude is His in the worldly life and the Next. The Judgement is His; and you will be returned to Him.” 
The chapter then proceeds to tell the story of Korah and what do the people warn him:
“Seek a home in the Next life with what God’s given you, but don’t neglect your rightful share in this one as well. Do good to others because God’s been good to you and don’t seek to spread corruption in the land, because God doesn’t like those who do this.” 
He went out among his people in his best clothes. Those who desired only the worldly life said: “If only we had been given something like what Korah has been given, he’s so lucky!” But those who were given knowledge said: “Damned are you! God’s reward is better for those who believe and do good but only those who are patient will be given it.” 
Have no doubts, He who has made the Qur’an binding on you will bring you back from where you came. So say: “My Lord knows best who brings true GUIDANCE and who’s blatantly lost.” 
And so the discourse of the chapter is refuting the pagan Arabs beliefs regarding thinking the Resurrection is magic and with that point premise 2 falls leaving no contradiction.
With that done, there were a few more points I would like to make on the article. Shamoun and his team seem to completely misunderstand Muslims. No Muslim on planet Earth argues the Torah is not divine, the argument is that:
A. They no longer have it
B. The Pentateuch is not divine scripture
Again I have to emphasize this as missionaries seem to have a hard time grasping this concept: The Torah is the Scripture God gave to Moses on Mount Sinai, not the tale of that one time he got it. For example Exodus 24 says:
Moses took half of the blood and put it in bowls, and the other half he sprinkled on the altar. Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people, who replied, “All that the LORD has spoken we will do, and we will be obedient…” Then the LORD said to Moses, “Come up to Me on the mountain and stay here, so that I may give you the tablets of stone, with the law and commandments I have written for their instruction.” 
How can the text telling the story be the text Moses got on Sinai and read to the people? I would recommend readers to my previous article Corruption of the Scriptures to get a better grasp of what Muslims and the Quran is talking about versus what is being championed as God Scripture:
Now did I, the author, just make this up? No the Jews themselves testify to this, from Chabad.org:
“Before Moses, there were traditions. There were rituals, there were stories, there were ideas. There were writings, as well…Most likely, Moses had a few scrolls in his possession from more ancient times.
According to Rashi (Exodus 24:4), before Moses went up that mountain, he presented the Jewish people with an official version of the Book of Genesis, as well as part of Exodus—up to the event at which he was standing. I expect he relied heavily on some of those earlier manuscripts for his work, and that he tried to be consistent in style with his additions. That doesn’t make this any less a divine work. G‑d can work with editors just as well as He can with authors…” 
So again the Pentateuch is not the Torah.
Now with that being said these passages about the Torah and the Quran actually help Muslims’ point not hurt it. Throughout the New Testament Jesus(peace be upon him) speaks to Jewish crowds and the Disciple with warnings about Hell which is a concept of the Resurrection, for example:
“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell. 
If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two hands and go into hell,e into the unquenchable fire. If your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame than to have two feet and be thrown into hell. And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, where ‘their worm never dies, and the fire is never quenched.’ 
Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 
But what’s strange is this concept doesn’t really appear in the Hebrew Bible that is claimed in modern times to be the Torah, so these threats of punishment would be pretty empty to the Jews. It’s these small details such as this we Muslims are talking about when discussing their texts.
However, with that conclusion, the “problem” presented has been due to God’s grace resolved and may peace be on those who follow guidance.
* All translations of the Quran are the author’s personal
 Quran 2:23
 Quran 10:38
 Quran 11:13
 Quran 17:88
 Quran 52:33-34
 Quran 11:7
 Quran 37:12-17
 Quran 52:11
 Quran 46:5-14
 Quran 34:2-8
 Quran 28:70
 Quran 28:77
 Quran 28:79-80
 Quran 28:85
 Exodus 24: 6-12
 Matt 23:33
 Matt 5:22
 Mark 9:43-48
 Matt 25:41