83 thoughts on “Debunking the trinity using Paul’s own words…

      1. 😂😂😂 You mean when your mangod said he didn’t know the hour? Yeah, we roasted you on that too.

        And now, it gets worse for you. Your satanic apostle Paul didnt even believe in the trinity. What say you monkey?

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      1. Inbred monkey, you need to have your parents, especially your Portuguese father (Satan) wash your mouth out with soap. Your filthy mouth only proves that crosstianity makes people crazy and perverted.

        So when will Mt Everest be moving? 😁

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  1. Monkey, foul language will not save you. You just make it worse for your religion. And you’re just wasting your time because such comments get deleted.

    So go have your father wash out your mouth with soap, little perverted baboon. And then try to move Mt Everest. 😂

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      1. 😂😂 Thank you for saying that Paul was a satanic false apostle. But no, he would have been eviscerated by the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). If Paul picked a fight with the messenger of God, he would have ended up in a tomb.

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      1. 🤣😂🤣 Well there you go Stew! The pathetic monkey did a copy paste and relied on Ibn Kathir’s commentary! 😂 Predictable much Hanuman?

        Where is Paul mentioned in the Quran dummy? Show me his name. Ibn Kathir’s commentary doesn’t prove anything.

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      2. We don’t know their names stupid. We don’t need to know. Just like we don’t know the names of the sleepers of the cave. What matters is moral of the story. They were sent to preach to the idolaters. You should listen to their message and stop worshiping a man. Ditch that thing you call the trinity.

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      3. What are you doing monkey? You trying to Google your so-called “challenge”? Is that all you can do? Copy paste every stupid argument you hear from your fellow crosstian pagans? 😂😂

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  2. stewjo004

    @ Zoze

    I’m sorry I must not have seen your post. If you link it to me I’ll read it again.

    Next, go ahead and post wherein the Qur’an God verifies Paul but keep in mind:

    1. Somone’s commentary doesn’t count nor is it binding upon us (show the Quranic text please)
    2. Paul claimed to be a prophet and we have a clear text where the Prophet(saw) said there was no prophet between him and Jesus(as)

    Finally, Paul’s claims are ONLY in his letters. Any line outside of his tradfition he was hated for example the people of Jerusalem where the Jesus(as) preached and the Disciples taught.

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  3. stewjo004

    @ Zoze

    Well, that was disappointing. I’m sorry you must have missed my point let me just repost that with some emphasis:

    “SOMEONE’S COMMENTARY DOESN’T COUNT NOR IS TS BINDING UPON US (SHOW QURANIC TEXT PLEASE)”

    I had noted that to save you some time. Let’s look at the verse together please show me where it says, Apostle Paul:

    36:13. Give them the lesson of the people whose city those who were sent came to.
    36:14. I sent two to them but they called them both liars. So I then reinforced them with a third. They all said: “We are among those that have been sent to you.”
    36:15. But they answered: “You’re only human beings like us. The Most Merciful hasn’t revealed a thing; you’re just speaking lies!”
    36:16. They replied: “Our Lord knows that we’ve been sent to you.”
    36:17. “We’re not responsible for anything but to allow this message to clearly reach you.”

    Now maybe my eyes are getting old but do you see Paul anywhere in there? QB what about you?

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    1. So who are those messengers if Quran is the word of Allah this means Allah doesn’t know wowww. And you came with the verse that Jesus Christ doesn’t know the hour of judgement. So Muslims quote the verses from Bible accusing Jesus Christ not to know but it is your Allah who fails to talk about who these messengers are. Your Allah has garbage to say about taking ants and so on but he cannot talk sense.

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      1. 🤦‍♂️ Idiot, pay attention. Your mangod admitted that he didnt know when the hour will come. He ADMITTED it. He didn’t say that he knew but that he was not going to tell anyone.

        In contrast, Allah did not reveal the names of the Messengers to us. That doesn’t mean He doesn’t know their names. He just didn’t reveal them to us. Get it monkey? Now stop eating Yahweh’s poop bread and talk some sense.

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  4. stewjo004

    @ Zoze

    Uhhhh that was a weird line of reasoning. Pretty much as QB noted:

    1, Show wherein the text God says He doesn’t know the name?
    2. The Bible talks about a talking donkey but you draw the line at an ant okay…..
    3. I haven’t accused Jesus(as) of anything I am quoting him saying he does not know when the Day of Judgement is. Again he says this not me and is showing he is not All-Knowing.

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  5. stewjo004

    @ Zoze

    Also, the reason for not revealing name is the theme of the passage is listening to “Those who were sent”

    36:1. Y.S.
    36:2. I swear on the Qur’an full of authority and wisdom.
    36:3. You (referring to Muhammad(saw) are from among THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SENT,
    36:4. upon the one straight path,
    36:5. gradually sent down by the Dominating and Forever Merciful,
    36:6. to warn a people whose ancestors were not warned, and so they were heedless.

    This will now continue throughout the chapter:

    36:13. Give them the lesson of the people whose city THOSE WHO WERE SENT came to.
    36:14. I sent two to them but they called them both liars. So I then reinforced them with a third.

    Continuing:

    36:20. Then, from the furthest part of the city, a man came running. He said: “My people! Listen with an open mind and heart; and follow THOSE WHO’VE BEEN SENT!”
    36:21. “Follow the ones who are not asking you for payment and are guided!”

    And even further down:

    36:51. The Horn was blown and all at once from their long forgotten graves, they will sprint towards their Lord.
    36:52. They will be crying: “We are damned! Who’s raised us from our resting places?” This is what the Most Merciful promised, and THOSE WHO WERE SENT spoke the Truth.

    So God is emphasizing a point that you Zoze need to follow Muhammad(saw) the one who was sent.

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    1. 36:14. I sent two to them but they called them both liars. So I then reinforced them with a third

      Look you are going in circle. give me the names of the messengers from the Quran and if Quran fails then your Allaha doesn’t know. I already explained about the hour of judgement and you failed to give any reply. So, who are the messengers.

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      1. stewjo004

        @ Zoze

        It’s not “going in circles” the theme of the chapter is “following those who’ve been sent”. In writing, if an author is repeating something they are drilling a point home. The point in the chapter is those sent as I quoted. There is NOTHING in the passage that states God does not know the names you are making this claim and must prove it.

        Finally, you explained nothing and ignored a clear text of Jesus(as) saying he has no knowledge of the Hour but still continue to worship him as an idol. When Jesus(as) said thi statement he said nothing about my divine sense knows blah, blah, blah”. He says he doesn’t know something God knows everything, therefore, Jesus(as) is not God.

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      2. This is why Jesus is fully human and in human senses he said he doesn’t know. He didn’t say the “Word” or “Spirit” didn’t know but the son doesn’t know as the angels doesn’t know. Because angels were created and Word becomes flesh which means the flesh doesn’t know not the ‘divine Word”.

        further if Quran is the word of Allah surah 85:22 then the word of Allah should tell us who the messenger is this is important. look if your quran is just another blabbering book talking without any proof then that is not my problem. But if Quran says it has all answers then please provide me the answers.

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  6. stewjo004

    @ Zoze

    Are you going to argue with Jesus(as) about what he does and doesn’t know? He said “I DO NOT KNOW” unless you want to argue he is not the Son even if it is “in flesh” that means at one point it did not know and is therefore not All-knowing and thus not God. Are you trying to ay God is ignorant?

    Finally, the only books rambling are Paul’s letters and lack of proof for any of the crap he says other than the quotes he butchers and twists to fool the ignorant.

    I’m going to now use an example to show how foolish you sound. Jesus(as) is alleged to have said:

    Or what woman, if she had ten drachma coins, if she lost one drachma coin, wouldn’t light a lamp, sweep the house, and seek diligently until she found it? When she has found it, she calls together her friends and neighbors, saying, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found the drachma which I had lost.’ Even so, I tell you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner repenting.”( Luke 15:8–10)

    What is the name of the woman? Why does she need 10 coins? Why didn’t she ask someone where the coin was? I guess because Jesus(as) didn’t mention it he was stupid huh?

    Do you see how stupid that is? It is irrelevant to the point being made, samething in the passage quoted.

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    1. “The Parable of the Lost Coin’ so this is a Parable meaning a story with a moral. Is your Quran Parable??? if yes then ok Quran is another book of story. Now are you happy. Give me the names of the messengers don’t play games.

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  7. stewjo004

    @ Zoze

    I know this already as I clearly stated I was making an example please don’t be dense. Moving on yes the Quran contains MANY parables in it and Muslims have never argued otherwise. Notice what you said it is a story used to illustrate a lesson. In Surah Yaseen “those who were sent” is a parable because a lesson is being derived from it for the reader, God is not just telling it for giggles. The lesson is to “follow those who have been sent”. Like how you thought I was being ignorant with the story of the coin that is what you are doing now.

    Moving on, do you agree the Son is not All Knowing?

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      1. stewjo004

        @ Zoze

        Down the line

        1. A donkey talks in the Bible (Numbers 22:28) and so does a snake (Genesis 3) dumb@$$
        2. Muhammad’s(saw) name appears 4 times in the Quran (3:144, 33:40, 47:2, 48:29)
        3. The story being told is “teaching a lesson” like how the lost coin “teaches a lesson”. Not that difficult to understand
        4. This is why you worship idols because you are ignorant about Scripture.

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      2. 1. A donkey talks in the Bible (Numbers 22:28) and so does a snake (Genesis 3) dumb@$$

        Respond: The first time we come across the word “serpent” is in (Gen 3:1), here the devil is metaphorically described as serpent. (2 Corinthians 11: 3 “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve in his craftiness, your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity and the purity that is toward Christ”.).(REVELATION 12: 9) Gives the answer “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Revelation 20: 2) “And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years”.

        2. Muhammad’s(saw) name appears 4 times in the Quran (3:144, 33:40, 47:2, 48:29)

        Respond: Then who is Abul Qasim???

        3. The story being told is “teaching a lesson” like how the lost coin “teaches a lesson”. Not that difficult to understand

        Respond; How do you know it is for teaching can you give reference.

        4. This is why you worship idols because you are ignorant about Scripture.

        Yes this is why Muhammad kissed the Black Stone and Muhammad couldn’t differentiate between revelation from Allah and revelation from evil spirit. A peculiar prophet who got Quran from jabriel while Moses and Jesus got Torah and Injil directly from Allaha. Muhammad never spoke to Allah directly while other prophets spoke to Allaha. hahhaahh. Got 7 Qurans but Moses and Jesus and David got one each. Really, you Muslims are really brainwashed by this garbage. This is why when a terrorist says to blow your self you muslims don’t question him but enact, proving that you have been brainwashed.

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      3. Zozo the monkey…

        1. No, the serpent is not the devil. It’s literally a talking snake. What your NT says is irrelevant.

        2. 🤦‍♂️ Abul Qasim means the father of Qasim. Qasim was one of Muhammad’s sons who died in childhood.

        3. 🤦‍♂️ He already showed the reference dummy.

        4. 🤦‍♂️ Kissing does not worship dummy. In contrast, you literally worship a man. That makes you a pagan.

        Now, I’m still waiting for Mt Everest to be thrown into the ocean. Will you do it soon?

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  8. stewjo004

    @ Zoze

    1. Animals talking and you not realizing the Bible has this
    The text literally says the snake:
    1Now the serpent was more crafty than any BEAST of the field that the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman… (Genesis 3:1)

    It literally reads like some mythology bs, not a metaphor. Next, even if for the sake of argument I drop this it still doesn’t stop the donkey talking:

    “Then the LORD opened the donkey’s mouth, and it said to Balaam, “What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?” (Numbers 22:28)

    2. Abu Qasim

    “Abu Qasim” is Prophet Muhammad’s(saw) “kunya”. It literally means “Father of Qasim”. In Arabia, they would take their oldest child and add “Abu” (for men) and “Umm” (for women). For example:

    A’isha said, “Prophet of Allah, will you not give me a kunya?” He said, “Use the kunya of your son,” i.e. ‘Abdullah ibn az-Zubayr. She was given the kunya Umm ‘Abdullah.
    https://sunnah.com/adab/35/10

    Narrated Jabir:
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “Name yourselves after me, but do not call yourselves by my Kuniya.”
    https://sunnah.com/bukhari/61/47

    3. Lesson
    I’ve given the references, the theme of chapter Ya Seen is following “those who have been sent” which is why it keeps being repeated

    4. Your ignorance of Scripture
    A. Kissing a stone is not paganism worship it (or a human) is. Again Jacob rubbed oil on a stone and named it but I would hardly doubt you would call him a pagan.
    B. MOST prophets received revelation through an angel. Moses(as) is the only real exception and btw Jesus(as) (according to your text) only talked to Allah directly ONCE (and this is debatable) and so did Prophet Muhammad(saw) so again their actually on an even playing field in that regard.
    C. You don’t know what Qiraat is so please don’t comment on them. “7 Qurans” are the accents retard, let’s compare 2 which are the most dramatic for the average person to catch:

    Yeah, nothing. Also realistically this would happen in Hebrew as well but since you guys don’t know how to speak it you’ll never know, which is why you can’t pronounce something like YHWH correct. Also since we’re on the topic can you explain to everyone why you have 4 versions of the Hebrew Bible? (DSS, LXX, Hebrew Masoretic and Samaritan)

    D. Finally, it is brainwashed to continue to worship a human that says he’s not God multiple times.

    Again your ignorance of Scripture is not everyone elses’ problem

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    1. 1. Animals talking and you not realizing the Bible has this
      The text literally says the snake:
      1Now the serpent was more crafty than any BEAST of the field that the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman… (Genesis 3:1)

      It literally reads like some mythology bs, not a metaphor. Next, even if for the sake of argument I drop this it still doesn’t stop the donkey talking:

      “Then the LORD opened the donkey’s mouth, and it said to Balaam, “What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?” (Numbers 22:28)

      Respond; The first time we come across the word “serpent” is in (Gen 3:1), here the devil is metaphorically described as serpent. (2 Corinthians 11: 3 “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve in his craftiness, your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity and the purity that is toward Christ”.).(REVELATION 12: 9) Gives the answer “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Revelation 20: 2) “And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years”.

      So, do you have believing snake and unbelieving snake are you serious.

      https://sunnah.com/muslim/39/191

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      1. Son of Muta we take the entire Bible if you have to take Quran will you take the Meccan verses or Median verses. If no then why we shouldn’t take the entire Bible. The only problem is you are cornered and you are failing to reply this is why you are coming with idiotic answers. And what about believing snake and unbelieving snake give me scientific evidence for it if not your Muammad is a nut case.

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      2. Son of Satan, then why were you asking only for the Torah when we were telling you about your evil god’s vicious orders to kill babies? Why, monkey, why?

        If you weren’t such an uneducated idiot, you would know that your Bible has been interpreted in a 1000 different ways. The devil is not even mentioned in the Bible the same way as he is in the NT. In the Tanakh, Satan is God’s agent, not a rebellious angel, stupid. Crosstians interpreted the snake as the devil but the text doesn’t allow for such an interpretation. Crosstians are nut cases. 😂

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      1. Yes but why did he kiss because Muhammad did but Umar was much wiser than Muhammad. Right read the hadith. Don’t feel embarrassed this is perfectly oral translated. AHadith are perfect.

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      2. 🤣😂 He kissed it because Muhammad did it and thus it is a Sunnah. He did it out of love for the Prophet, and because he knew the Prophet also did not worship the stone.

        I’m still waiting for your proof that kissing means worship. Don’t feel embarrassed pagan monkey if you can’t prove it. Just admit that you’re an Idiot.

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      3. Well, there goes Hanuman getting desperate! So here comes the spam and irrelevant links. Hanuman, if you are embarrassed and cannot sustain your argument, just admit that you’re an Idiot and move on. Spamming the blog does not save you. You’re just wasting your time because such posts get immediately deleted.

        So, will you be moving Mt Everest today? I don’t know why you keep delaying it. Don’t you want me to convert to crosstianity? 🥺

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      4. 😂😂 Don’t get mad cowardly monkey. You try to spam the blog with irrelevant links when you get cornered and frustrated with your own incompetence.

        Stick to the topic monkey. And don’t use foul language. These are the rules. If you don’t follow them, your comments will be deleted. Get it? Now stop complaining and eat some more of Yahweh’s poop bread while having your Portuguese father nurse you, little inbred baboon. 🤣🤣🤣

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      5. Irrelevant comments deleted again monkey. Stick to the topic. You’re embarrassing yourself. If you can’t defend your pagan religion using rational arguments, just admit it. No need to get frustrated and start spamming the blog with your idiotic distractions. 😆

        So when will Mt Everest be moving? Soon? I’m really anxious to convert to crosstianity.

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      6. Paul was a liar. Nuff said monkey. So yeah, the satanic apostle will be in hell unless he somehow repented of his heresy. But even he knew better than to worship some confused trinity god. At least in that regard, he knew better than you. But you’re still both pagans who will roast in hell unless you repent of your heresy.

        I’m still waiting for Mt Everest to move. Your desperate attempts to evade this challenge will not change anything. Admit that you are a false christian and I will leave you alone, at least until you open your foul monkey mouth again. How is your Portuguese father doing?

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  9. You’re not quoting the Quran or the Hadiths moron. You’re giving random links like a typical Google scholar. Plus, you are spamming the blog and changing the subject, all grounds for deleting your moronic comments and links. Get it monkey?

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    1. don’t worry i am quoting the 21st century scholar similarly how you muslims quote Raymond brown and Bruce Metzger therefore i am also quoting them. So, enjoy and show your love towards your prophet. Don’t get embarrassed but love it.

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      1. 😂 Moron, Metzger and Brown were not religious scholars. They were scholars in NT textual criticism. You can’t refute their honest assessments of the history of your book.

        In contrast, you quote random articles or YouTube videos which show some random “scholar” making fatwas. Fatwas are opinions and are not binding. They have no legal application. Moreover, just because some random person issues a fatwa on a topic, it does not mean that it is the accepted view. Finally, in most cases, the links you gave were translated by dishonest organizations like Memri, which has been criticised for selective translations of Arabic.

        So once again, you haven’t brought anything from the Quran or Sunnah, or even from any reputable scholar. Your random links just show what a deceitful loser you are. You got too much time on your hands. No wonder you have a porn addiction. 😂

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      1. 😂 So? I already talked about this stupid: https://quranandbibleblog.wordpress.com/2019/06/12/hadith-database-hadith-on-the-prophet-putting-his-tongue-in-hasans-mouth/

        You morons take any hadith out of context and then make a non-sequitur. That shows how perverted and corrupt your minds are. The Prophet was simply showing affection to his grandson, dummy. That’s all that was. It was also a dry land, so children could get very agitated in the dry conditions. This would settle them down.

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    1. 🤣😂 You really are a moron! What does one have to do with the other idiot? The practice of bacha bazi existed before Islam. Even the Taliban outlawed it. It is unIslamic dummy.

      How many children have been abused by you crosstians? Hmm?

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  10. stewjo004

    @ Zoze

    Are you retarded? First off the hadith is referring to a type of demon, not just regular snakes:
    https://sunnah.com/muslim/39

    Moving on as QB said you are inconsistent with your usage of the OT and NT. Even then I don’t need Genesis let me just quote Numbers again:

    “Then the LORD opened the donkey’s mouth, and it said to Balaam, “What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?” (Numbers 22:28)

    So your argument against the Ant is stupid especially seeing as the Jews believe in this as well.

    Moving on the Arabs still had portions of Abraham’s(as) religion and rites they (like Christians and Jews) incorporated paganism into the belief system.

    And now we come back to the actual crux. So Zoze is the Son All-Knowing or not?

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