Invitation to the YouTube Christian Clown dhc21

A while back, I had written a response to Jack Chick’s tract “Allah Had No Son” and posted it on YouTube where a pathetic “Chickie” operated. After proceeding to destroy his measly defense of Jack Chick, this Christian zombie ran away for a while only to resurface ocasionally now and then. I have been having a tit-for-tat conversation with him on YouTube and have repeatedly challenged him to come on the blog and attempt to defend the Bible and Christianity. I have challenged him on many topics on the Bible, like scientific errors. Thus far, the pathetic crybaby has been stalling on answering my challenge, so I am posting this invitation to hopefully lure him out of his cave. Let’s see if he takes the bait…๐Ÿ˜

https://quranandbibleblog.wordpress.com/2018/01/10/discussion-with-another-chickie-allah-had-no-son/

https://quranandbibleblog.wordpress.com/2017/11/08/islam-jack-chick-and-the-battle-for-souls-allah-had-no-son/

137 thoughts on “Invitation to the YouTube Christian Clown dhc21

  1. LoL I read that which you don’t read; and you won’t read that which I read. Furthermore, you will not read what I read. And, and , and I will not read that which you are looking forward to read. And you won’t read what I read. You have your books and I have my books…tadaaaa!
    How can you stand against such a powerful statement? It is almost as if it came from out of this world or some other place like that?

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  2. stewjo004

    @ QB
    Alright may Allah guide him.

    @ Mr. dhc21
    Please do me a favor and listen to that chapter in Arabic for me real quick because I would like you to hear something and explain the error in your โ€œjokeโ€ real quick:

    This is what is called โ€œrhetoricโ€ in writing. The background to the chapter youโ€™re mocking is the pagan Arab’s leaders wanted to compromise with the Prophet(saw). โ€œHey will worship God for a year then our gods next year. Then will worship God again then our gods.โ€ he said no. They then tried the same thing for a month, week and day. Remember this because itโ€™ll be important in a sec

    “Binarity” or “bi-polarity” as a rhetoric instrument plays a huge role in the Quran. This is when you put two opposite linguistic/semantic elements alongside one another to produce certain emotions for the readers.

    Almost all words of Surah 109, expect entire first ayah, are repeated at least once. What is a purpose of that? What is the function of that repeating in Surah 109?

    Like how the pagans were going one year ours one year yours, God is mocking them with the repetition of belief and disbelief and the pronouns with them I and You, Mine and Yours.

    Secondly, delayed repetition serves as a tool to enhance the contextual effect and give emphasized knowledge of a fact that unbelievers will never be the same as believers (You are not worshiping what I worship).

    Thirdly, the constant appearance of “what” highlights the importance of the subject and enhances the given statement. The repetitiveness in Arabic also says about โ€œthe degree of the speakersโ€ commitment and attitude. You leaders are evil and will NEVER believe.

    This Surah โ€™s rhetorical core is essentially a highly repetitive text framed in a binary model which is done in order to make an emphasis on the significance of the difference between believers and unbelievers.

    Another small remark regarding this Chapter should be made. People mistake the last verse to mean “Oh you can worship what you want and I can worship what I want no need to fight.”

    The root d-y-n can also be translated as โ€œreckoningโ€ which gives a new meaning this verse.

    โ€œA reckoning for you and a reckoning for meโ€ gives the implication meaning that everyone will โ€œreceive a just and final reckoning at the proper timeโ€

    When was this Surah revealed? After a decade of calling these people to God kindly despite them torturing and killing the Muslims. At this point God is telling His Prophet(saw) to tell them to keep it up, you keep doing what you’re doing and I’ll keep up what I’m doing and eventually you all won’t be colliding with words, it’s going to be a colliding with the sword. God is giving a foreshadow to the conflict that’s about to come.

    Finally, the end of this Surah corresponds with the beginning of the next one.

    Lakum DEENukum wa-liya DEEN.
    For you be your RELIGION and its reckoning for me is my RELIGION and itโ€™s reckoning.

    Next chapter 110:1-2
    wa-rara aytan nas sa yadkhul la fee deen ilafi afwaja
    When Godโ€™s Help comes and you see the people entering God’s RELIGION in crowds.

    So the reckoning is the Message won’t stop, in the end the disbelievers will fail and the people will enter Gods religion in crowds.

    Yes, the rhetoric of the Qur’an is VERY powerful but sometimes it’s hard to emulate that into English. And please keep in mind I’ve barely scratched the surface of the chapter I’m just explaining the mistake in your mockery. May God guide us to the path most pleasing to Him.

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  3. The singer sounds like a goat trying to pass some papers it ate. I put my ear next to the bible and it didn’t say anything. Some “people” say it is 6000 yrs old, “others” say it is much older. Since YHWH does not mention how much time ticked off, I cannot say that the bible “says” the earth is 6000 yrs old. Hoy, how come you are not jewish? Didn’t muhammad say the shahada for the torah??

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    1. Since the Bible provides a detailed genealogy starting from Adam,[27]ย it becomes clear that from the first day of Creation to the present day, only about 6,000 years have gone by.[28]ย  In other words, according to the Bible, the Earth is only about 6,000 years old.ย  Given the scientific evidence presented above, the Biblical claim is a clear error.ย ย 

      ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  However, some Christians have argued that the age of the Earth cannot be determined from the genealogies and hence argue that the Biblical genealogies should not be taken literally.[29]ย  Instead, they argue that when the genealogy refers to โ€œfatherโ€ and โ€œsonโ€, it could also be referring to an โ€œancestorโ€ and a โ€œdescendantโ€ and hence, we cannot know how many years had lapsed from Adam to Abraham.ย  While it is true that the Hebrew wordย โ€œabโ€ย can mean both a literalย โ€œfatherโ€ย andย โ€œancestorโ€,[30]ย and the wordย โ€œbenโ€ย can mean both a literalย โ€œsonโ€andย โ€œdescendantโ€,[31]ย this argument fails for some very simple reasons in the case of the genealogies.ย 

      ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  First, if the Biblical figures mentioned in the genealogies of Genesis 5 and 11 are not necessarily โ€œfatherโ€ and โ€œsonโ€, then it means that the genealogies have gaps which can exceed thousands of generations (if we attempt to harmonize the Bible with science).ย  If that is true, then these genealogies have no meaning and we have to question why they are even part of scripture.[32]ย  What would be the point of mentioning a genealogy which separates two people by hundreds or thousands of generations?ย ย 

      ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Second, the context of the genealogies indicates that nothing other than a literal father-son relationship is implied.ย  As โ€œAnswers in Genesisโ€ points out:

      โ€œโ€ฆadditional biographical information in Genesis 5 and 11 strongly supports the view that there are no gaps in these chapters. So we know for certain that the following are literal father/son relationships: Adam/Seth, Seth/Enosh, Lamech/Noah, Noah/Shem, Eber/Peleg, and Terah/Abram. Nothing in these chapters indicates that the โ€œXย begatย Yโ€ means something other than a literal father/son relationship.โ€[33]

      Put schematically, we can see that from Adam to Shem in the Genesis 5 genealogy, six of the eleven names mentioned are clearly linked in literal father-son relationships:

      Adamโ€“Sethโ€“Enosh-Kenan-Mahalel-Jared-Enoch-Methusaleh-Lamechโ€“Noahโ€“Shem

      Thus, why would we assume that the other five names are also not linked by the same relationships?ย  In fact, the New Testament helps us to lock in Kenan, Mahalel, Jared and Enoch in literal father-son relationships as well.[34]ย  According to Jude 1:14, Enoch was theย โ€œseventh from Adamโ€:

      โ€œEnoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: โ€œSee, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy onesโ€ฆโ€

      If Enoch was theย โ€œseventh from Adamโ€, it means he was Adamโ€™s great-great-great-great-grandson, which makes Jared the great-great-great-grandson and so on.ย  Therefore, ten of the eleven names are now linked, with only Methuselah left:ย ย 

      Adam (1)โ€“Seth (2)โ€“Enosh (3)โ€“Kenan (4)โ€“Mahalel (5)โ€“Jared (6)โ€“Enoch (7)-Methusaleh-Lamechโ€“Noahโ€“Shem

      Keeping the โ€œancestor-descendantโ€ argument in mind, there is nothing outside of Genesis 5 which clearly links Methuselah as Enochโ€™s literal son, even though he is mentioned in other genealogies as the son of Enoch (and that is all the context really allows).[35]ย  Nevertheless, it is clear that the other names are all part of literal father-son relationships and not โ€œancestor-descendantโ€ relationships, and thus, Enoch and Methusaleh should be no different.ย  Now let us look at the genealogy in Genesis 11.

      ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  The genealogy goes like this:

      Shem-Arphaxad-Shelah-Eber-Peleg-Reu-Serug-Nahor-Terah-Abraham

      We already know that Eber/Peleg and Terah/Abraham have literal father-son relationships.ย  That leaves six names unaccounted for.ย  Yet, we can also add Shem and Arphaxad because it is clear that Shem was the father of Arphaxad and not his โ€œancestorโ€, as is clear from Genesis 11:10, which states that Shem โ€œfatheredโ€ Arphaxad onlyย two yearsย after the flood:

      โ€œThis is the account of Shemโ€™s family line. Two years after the flood, when Shem was 100 years old, he became the father of Arphaxad.โ€

      Hence, six of the ten names are now linked:

      Shemโ€“Arphaxad-Shelah-Eberโ€“Peleg-Reu-Serug-Nahor-Terahโ€“Abraham

      But Shelah can certainly be added since it would not make sense to place a distant โ€œancestorโ€ between Arphaxad and Eber.ย  Indeed, why would we assume that Shelah was perhaps only a distant โ€œancestorโ€ of Eber or that Reu was a distant โ€œdescendantโ€ of Peleg?ย  Similarly, why would we assume that the other three are also not linked?ย  Clearly, there is no rhyme or reason to claiming that โ€œabโ€ and โ€œbenโ€ had any other meaning other than as literal โ€œfatherโ€ and โ€œsonโ€, respectively.ย  Indeed, out of the twenty names mentioned in Genesis 5 and 11, from Adam to Abraham, sixteen can be undoubtedly linked.ย  Based on this undeniable proof, the only reasonable conclusion is that when we add the number of years together in these genealogies, we can calculate the age of the earth as being around 6,000 years.ย ย ย 

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    2. stewjo004

      @ dhc21

      I’m sorry you put your ear next to the Bible? Idk what that means.

      Moving on I’m not familiar with this shahada for the Torah what are you referring to?

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      1. stew, here you go: 40 Prescribed Punishments (Kitab Al-Hudud)
        (26)Chapter: The stoning of the two jews(26) ุจุงุจ ูููŠ ุฑูŽุฌู’ู…ู ุงู„ู’ูŠูŽู‡ููˆุฏููŠู‘ูŽูŠู’ู†ู
        Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:

        A group of Jews came and invited the Messenger of Allah (๏ทบ) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.

        They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Messenger of Allah (๏ทบ) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee.

        He then said: Bring me one who is learned among you. Then a young man was brought. The transmitter then mentioned the rest of the tradition of stoning similar to the one transmitted by Malik from Nafi'(No. 4431).

        ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ูŽุง ุฃูŽุญู’ู…ูŽุฏู ุจู’ู†ู ุณูŽุนููŠุฏู ุงู„ู’ู‡ูŽู…ู’ุฏูŽุงู†ููŠู‘ูุŒ ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ูŽุง ุงุจู’ู†ู ูˆูŽู‡ู’ุจูุŒ ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ููŠ ู‡ูุดูŽุงู…ู ุจู’ู†ู ุณูŽุนู’ุฏูุŒ ุฃูŽู†ู‘ูŽ ุฒูŽูŠู’ุฏูŽ ุจู’ู†ูŽ ุฃูŽุณู’ู„ูŽู…ูŽุŒ ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู‡ู ุนูŽู†ู ุงุจู’ู†ู ุนูู…ูŽุฑูŽุŒ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ุฃูŽุชูŽู‰ ู†ูŽููŽุฑูŒ ู…ูู†ู’ ูŠูŽู‡ููˆุฏูŽ ููŽุฏูŽุนูŽูˆู’ุง ุฑูŽุณููˆู„ูŽ ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู… ุฅูู„ูŽู‰ ุงู„ู’ู‚ููู‘ู ููŽุฃูŽุชูŽุงู‡ูู…ู’ ูููŠ ุจูŽูŠู’ุชู ุงู„ู’ู…ูุฏู’ุฑูŽุงุณู ููŽู‚ูŽุงู„ููˆุง ูŠูŽุง ุฃูŽุจูŽุง ุงู„ู’ู‚ูŽุงุณูู…ู ุฅูู†ู‘ูŽ ุฑูŽุฌูู„ุงู‹ ู…ูู†ู‘ูŽุง ุฒูŽู†ูŽู‰ ุจูุงู…ู’ุฑูŽุฃูŽุฉู ููŽุงุญู’ูƒูู…ู’ ุจูŽูŠู’ู†ูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ููŽูˆูŽุถูŽุนููˆุง ู„ูุฑูŽุณููˆู„ู ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู… ูˆูุณูŽุงุฏูŽุฉู‹ ููŽุฌูŽู„ูŽุณูŽ ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ูŽุง ุซูู…ู‘ูŽ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ โ€”โ€ ุงุฆู’ุชููˆู†ููŠ ุจูุงู„ุชู‘ูŽูˆู’ุฑูŽุงุฉู โ€”โ€ โ€.โ€ ููŽุฃูุชููŠูŽ ุจูู‡ูŽุง ููŽู†ูŽุฒูŽุนูŽ ุงู„ู’ูˆูุณูŽุงุฏูŽุฉูŽ ู…ูู†ู’ ุชูŽุญู’ุชูู‡ู ููŽูˆูŽุถูŽุนูŽ ุงู„ุชู‘ูŽูˆู’ุฑูŽุงุฉูŽ ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ูŽุง ุซูู…ู‘ูŽ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ โ€”โ€ ุขู…ูŽู†ู’ุชู ุจููƒู ูˆูŽุจูู…ูŽู†ู’ ุฃูŽู†ู’ุฒูŽู„ูŽูƒู โ€”โ€ โ€.โ€ ุซูู…ู‘ูŽ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ โ€”โ€ ุงุฆู’ุชููˆู†ููŠ ุจูุฃูŽุนู’ู„ูŽู…ููƒูู…ู’ โ€”โ€ โ€.โ€ ููŽุฃูุชููŠูŽ ุจูููŽุชู‹ู‰ ุดูŽุงุจู‘ู ุซูู…ู‘ูŽ ุฐูŽูƒูŽุฑูŽ ู‚ูุตู‘ูŽุฉูŽ ุงู„ุฑู‘ูŽุฌู’ู…ู ู†ูŽุญู’ูˆูŽ ุญูŽุฏููŠุซู ู…ูŽุงู„ููƒู ุนูŽู†ู’ ู†ูŽุงููุนู โ€.โ€
        Grade : Hasan (Al-Albani) ุญุณู† (ุงู„ุฃู„ุจุงู†ูŠ) ุญูƒู… :
        Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 4449
        In-book reference : Book 40, Hadith 99
        English translation : Book 39, Hadith 4434

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  4. LoL what does that prove? That you can count? Yay you have your ged! Where in either the quran or the bible does it say that salvation has anything to do with knowing how to figure out the age of earth? You are lost in your semantics and pedantics. 2nd chance…why aren’t you jewish?

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    1. ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ So no response? I told you I would embarrass you, didn’t I? You’re way out of your league, snowflake!

      Now try to respond for once. If the Bible is truly the inspired word of God, it shouldn’t have myths that were widely believed in ancient times. Why should any one trust their salvation on the Bible when it is just another book written by ignorant people trying to make sense of the world?

      2nd Chance, snowflake. You’re off to a really bad start!

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  5. Please forgive my bad start, I am so grateful that you gave me a 2nd chance. In appreciation, let me turn myself, 180, and send a scirocco in your general direction. Abdul, 2 strawmans don’t make your premise true, but they do make you a certified wannabe. A wannabe is a japanese plant that lives off of instant hay and dehydrated water. What standard are you using for the comparison? The quran? Science? Embarrassed, me? Your “argument” is as if you’re biting your own big toe and asking me to cry uncle. I am wondering if you will bite your own toe off and then begin on another one, hmmm? So if the earth is 6000 yrs old, I cannot be saved? Or is it, the earth is much older than 6000 yrs old, I cannot be saved? Obviously Islam will not save me because I cannot know since my salvation and damnation was predetermined when I was a haploid. This applies to you and stew. Is that what you mean by a bad start? All that you have proven is that you will bite off your own toe to spite others.
    Still, why aren’t you jewish, muhammad was! He said shahada defending the torah. I have heard ranchera music on mexican radios that sounds better than the video of 109. No comprendey, itsa riddle.

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    1. Idiot, I can see you are incapable of having an objective discussion. I knew that for a while. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Now follow me closely. I know your brain can wander and your holy spirit is just as stupid as you are. The earth is not 6000 years old. Your Bible says it is. Ergo, your Bible is false. You get it? Therefore, no one needs your Bible to be saved because it is a fraudulent book. You follow me?

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  6. Abdul, The only thing bigger than your ego is the opinion you have about your ego. The age of the earth is irrelevant to the veracity of the bible or the quran. Care to try for a third toe?

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  7. Here is another joke for you from the Clown lol, shalom! : 40 Prescribed Punishments (Kitab Al-Hudud)
    (26)Chapter: The stoning of the two jews(26) ุจุงุจ ูููŠ ุฑูŽุฌู’ู…ู ุงู„ู’ูŠูŽู‡ููˆุฏููŠู‘ูŽูŠู’ู†ู
    Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:

    A group of Jews came and invited the Messenger of Allah (๏ทบ) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.

    They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Messenger of Allah (๏ทบ) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee.

    He then said: Bring me one who is learned among you. Then a young man was brought. The transmitter then mentioned the rest of the tradition of stoning similar to the one transmitted by Malik from Nafi'(No. 4431).

    ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ูŽุง ุฃูŽุญู’ู…ูŽุฏู ุจู’ู†ู ุณูŽุนููŠุฏู ุงู„ู’ู‡ูŽู…ู’ุฏูŽุงู†ููŠู‘ูุŒ ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ูŽุง ุงุจู’ู†ู ูˆูŽู‡ู’ุจูุŒ ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ููŠ ู‡ูุดูŽุงู…ู ุจู’ู†ู ุณูŽุนู’ุฏูุŒ ุฃูŽู†ู‘ูŽ ุฒูŽูŠู’ุฏูŽ ุจู’ู†ูŽ ุฃูŽุณู’ู„ูŽู…ูŽุŒ ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู‡ู ุนูŽู†ู ุงุจู’ู†ู ุนูู…ูŽุฑูŽุŒ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ุฃูŽุชูŽู‰ ู†ูŽููŽุฑูŒ ู…ูู†ู’ ูŠูŽู‡ููˆุฏูŽ ููŽุฏูŽุนูŽูˆู’ุง ุฑูŽุณููˆู„ูŽ ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู… ุฅูู„ูŽู‰ ุงู„ู’ู‚ููู‘ู ููŽุฃูŽุชูŽุงู‡ูู…ู’ ูููŠ ุจูŽูŠู’ุชู ุงู„ู’ู…ูุฏู’ุฑูŽุงุณู ููŽู‚ูŽุงู„ููˆุง ูŠูŽุง ุฃูŽุจูŽุง ุงู„ู’ู‚ูŽุงุณูู…ู ุฅูู†ู‘ูŽ ุฑูŽุฌูู„ุงู‹ ู…ูู†ู‘ูŽุง ุฒูŽู†ูŽู‰ ุจูุงู…ู’ุฑูŽุฃูŽุฉู ููŽุงุญู’ูƒูู…ู’ ุจูŽูŠู’ู†ูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ููŽูˆูŽุถูŽุนููˆุง ู„ูุฑูŽุณููˆู„ู ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู… ูˆูุณูŽุงุฏูŽุฉู‹ ููŽุฌูŽู„ูŽุณูŽ ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ูŽุง ุซูู…ู‘ูŽ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ โ€”โ€ ุงุฆู’ุชููˆู†ููŠ ุจูุงู„ุชู‘ูŽูˆู’ุฑูŽุงุฉู โ€”โ€ โ€.โ€ ููŽุฃูุชููŠูŽ ุจูู‡ูŽุง ููŽู†ูŽุฒูŽุนูŽ ุงู„ู’ูˆูุณูŽุงุฏูŽุฉูŽ ู…ูู†ู’ ุชูŽุญู’ุชูู‡ู ููŽูˆูŽุถูŽุนูŽ ุงู„ุชู‘ูŽูˆู’ุฑูŽุงุฉูŽ ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ูŽุง ุซูู…ู‘ูŽ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ โ€”โ€ ุขู…ูŽู†ู’ุชู ุจููƒู ูˆูŽุจูู…ูŽู†ู’ ุฃูŽู†ู’ุฒูŽู„ูŽูƒู โ€”โ€ โ€.โ€ ุซูู…ู‘ูŽ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ โ€”โ€ ุงุฆู’ุชููˆู†ููŠ ุจูุฃูŽุนู’ู„ูŽู…ููƒูู…ู’ โ€”โ€ โ€.โ€ ููŽุฃูุชููŠูŽ ุจูููŽุชู‹ู‰ ุดูŽุงุจู‘ู ุซูู…ู‘ูŽ ุฐูŽูƒูŽุฑูŽ ู‚ูุตู‘ูŽุฉูŽ ุงู„ุฑู‘ูŽุฌู’ู…ู ู†ูŽุญู’ูˆูŽ ุญูŽุฏููŠุซู ู…ูŽุงู„ููƒู ุนูŽู†ู’ ู†ูŽุงููุนู โ€.โ€
    Grade : Hasan (Al-Albani) ุญุณู† (ุงู„ุฃู„ุจุงู†ูŠ) ุญูƒู… :
    Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 4449
    In-book reference : Book 40, Hadith 99
    English translation : Book 39, Hadith 4434

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    1. Atlas

      So your concern is salvation from the All-Knowing God that brought the bible and got the age of the planet wrong and you are asking why that is relevant to your salvation???
      Are you stupid or acting like it?

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  8. This is a test of the HPCS, Honesty in Posting Comments Society. If this website claims having honest discourse then this comment will be posted. Otherwise, rest assured it is like any other abdul website. Shalom to you stew and mo, the 3 stooges! For the 3rd time: 40 Prescribed Punishments (Kitab Al-Hudud)
    (26)Chapter: The stoning of the two jews(26) ุจุงุจ ูููŠ ุฑูŽุฌู’ู…ู ุงู„ู’ูŠูŽู‡ููˆุฏููŠู‘ูŽูŠู’ู†ู
    Narrated Abdullah Ibn Umar:

    A group of Jews came and invited the Messenger of Allah (๏ทบ) to Quff. So he visited them in their school.

    They said: AbulQasim, one of our men has committed fornication with a woman; so pronounce judgment upon them. They placed a cushion for the Messenger of Allah (๏ทบ) who sat on it and said: Bring the Torah. It was then brought. He then withdrew the cushion from beneath him and placed the Torah on it saying: I believed in thee and in Him Who revealed thee.

    He then said: Bring me one who is learned among you. Then a young man was brought. The transmitter then mentioned the rest of the tradition of stoning similar to the one transmitted by Malik from Nafi'(No. 4431).

    ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ูŽุง ุฃูŽุญู’ู…ูŽุฏู ุจู’ู†ู ุณูŽุนููŠุฏู ุงู„ู’ู‡ูŽู…ู’ุฏูŽุงู†ููŠู‘ูุŒ ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ูŽุง ุงุจู’ู†ู ูˆูŽู‡ู’ุจูุŒ ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ููŠ ู‡ูุดูŽุงู…ู ุจู’ู†ู ุณูŽุนู’ุฏูุŒ ุฃูŽู†ู‘ูŽ ุฒูŽูŠู’ุฏูŽ ุจู’ู†ูŽ ุฃูŽุณู’ู„ูŽู…ูŽุŒ ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู‡ู ุนูŽู†ู ุงุจู’ู†ู ุนูู…ูŽุฑูŽุŒ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ุฃูŽุชูŽู‰ ู†ูŽููŽุฑูŒ ู…ูู†ู’ ูŠูŽู‡ููˆุฏูŽ ููŽุฏูŽุนูŽูˆู’ุง ุฑูŽุณููˆู„ูŽ ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู… ุฅูู„ูŽู‰ ุงู„ู’ู‚ููู‘ู ููŽุฃูŽุชูŽุงู‡ูู…ู’ ูููŠ ุจูŽูŠู’ุชู ุงู„ู’ู…ูุฏู’ุฑูŽุงุณู ููŽู‚ูŽุงู„ููˆุง ูŠูŽุง ุฃูŽุจูŽุง ุงู„ู’ู‚ูŽุงุณูู…ู ุฅูู†ู‘ูŽ ุฑูŽุฌูู„ุงู‹ ู…ูู†ู‘ูŽุง ุฒูŽู†ูŽู‰ ุจูุงู…ู’ุฑูŽุฃูŽุฉู ููŽุงุญู’ูƒูู…ู’ ุจูŽูŠู’ู†ูŽู‡ูู…ู’ ููŽูˆูŽุถูŽุนููˆุง ู„ูุฑูŽุณููˆู„ู ุงู„ู„ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู… ูˆูุณูŽุงุฏูŽุฉู‹ ููŽุฌูŽู„ูŽุณูŽ ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ูŽุง ุซูู…ู‘ูŽ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ โ€”โ€ ุงุฆู’ุชููˆู†ููŠ ุจูุงู„ุชู‘ูŽูˆู’ุฑูŽุงุฉู โ€”โ€ โ€.โ€ ููŽุฃูุชููŠูŽ ุจูู‡ูŽุง ููŽู†ูŽุฒูŽุนูŽ ุงู„ู’ูˆูุณูŽุงุฏูŽุฉูŽ ู…ูู†ู’ ุชูŽุญู’ุชูู‡ู ููŽูˆูŽุถูŽุนูŽ ุงู„ุชู‘ูŽูˆู’ุฑูŽุงุฉูŽ ุนูŽู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ูŽุง ุซูู…ู‘ูŽ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ โ€”โ€ ุขู…ูŽู†ู’ุชู ุจููƒู ูˆูŽุจูู…ูŽู†ู’ ุฃูŽู†ู’ุฒูŽู„ูŽูƒู โ€”โ€ โ€.โ€ ุซูู…ู‘ูŽ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ โ€”โ€ ุงุฆู’ุชููˆู†ููŠ ุจูุฃูŽุนู’ู„ูŽู…ููƒูู…ู’ โ€”โ€ โ€.โ€ ููŽุฃูุชููŠูŽ ุจูููŽุชู‹ู‰ ุดูŽุงุจู‘ู ุซูู…ู‘ูŽ ุฐูŽูƒูŽุฑูŽ ู‚ูุตู‘ูŽุฉูŽ ุงู„ุฑู‘ูŽุฌู’ู…ู ู†ูŽุญู’ูˆูŽ ุญูŽุฏููŠุซู ู…ูŽุงู„ููƒู ุนูŽู†ู’ ู†ูŽุงููุนู โ€.โ€
    Grade : Hasan (Al-Albani) ุญุณู† (ุงู„ุฃู„ุจุงู†ูŠ) ุญูƒู… :
    Reference : Sunan Abi Dawud 4449
    In-book reference : Book 40, Hadith 99
    English translation : Book 39, Hadith 4434

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  9. I am so sorry, I take it back, I was wrong about your opinion. The only thing bigger than your opinion of your ego is your dishonesty. I have posted 3 times a response to stew about mo taking the shahada for the torah with references. Were is it, abdul? Don’t worry, I recorded the posts with time stamps. So it doesn’t matter. Shalom to you stew and mo. Will this be posted? Ass licker? I guess relatively speaking it is better than being mo’s cocksucker?

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  10. Atlas

    I seriously think this guys has mental issues. So believing in God and the Torah means you are jew??
    Never knew crosstians were jews all this time.
    Where do they come with this moronic idiocy???
    And why dont you ever answer a question. Why does your bible say the earth is 6000 years old?

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  11. Atlas

    Shahada is believing In God and His last Messenger Muhammad. Pleeeease dont tell me you are saying that “well believing in God and His Torah means that this is also a sahada and therefor u must accept judaism”. Is this idiot actually implying that?

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      1. ๐Ÿ˜† still not getting it, eh? I know, I know. Your holy spirit is a couple of wrenches short of a tool chest, so we’ll try again. As Atlas explained, the Shahadah refers to believing in Allah and His Messenger. We also believe in all the scriptures that were revealed by Allah. That includes the Torah, but not the corrupted version that we have today. Believing in the Torah makes us Muslims, because we submit to God.

        Now, back to the topic. Why does your corrupted Bible say that the earth is 6000 years old? We know the earth is actually 4 billion years old, so the Bible is wrong. Why should anyone trust their salvation to such a book? Answer the question, snowflake. ๐Ÿ˜

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      2. Atlas

        No one is carrying two contrary beliefs. And you still can’t answer a single question brought forth. What else are we supposed to think other then you being braindead? We believe in the Torah but not its preservasion. Even your own scholars are wripping your bible apart as we speak. Multiple different sources were used for the Torah that we have today. Sources that contradict one another. Textual critics say this about the Torah all the time. Sad. No, it’s pathetic.

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      3. Atlas

        The idiot will NOT answer you but go off on a tangent on the must idiotic things. I mean who the hell comes up with this stupidity of the sahada for the torah stuff?????? Who sits their at home and thinks “yeah this makes alot of sense”???
        The answer will be something like ” Abduuul, maabduuuul. Aaam potato abdul! Aam shishkebab with a little bit of tomato abdul.”

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      4. stewjo004

        @ dhc

        Uh… the context to this hadith is the Jews knew that the punishment for adultery was stoning in the Torah. They were coming to the Prophet(saw) to get around this and expected Islam to have a different ruling. If he(saw) gave a nicer ruling they would take that and if he gave a harsher ruling they would reject it. They then asked for judgment and the Prophet(saw) gave them the judgment from the Torah. Which makes sense given they aren’t Muslim and we have the same law in this regard thus circumventing their trick.

        But dhc I’m going to respectfully tap out here with our discussion, God guides whomever He wishes.

        25:63. The servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk humbly on the earth, and who, when those who have no control over their emotions speak to them, they reply only peace.

        10:99. Had your Lord wished, every single person on earth would have believed. So can you force people to believe?
        10:100. No one will believe except by God’s permission, He makes filth settle on those who do not use their intellect.

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      1. stewjo004

        @ Qb
        I would just argue t a more fundamental level. The Bible has proven forgeries in it (ending of Mark 16:9-20, Lady taken in adultery John 7:53โ€“8:11) why should anyone trust the book’s reliability?

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  12. @QB or is it FS? At least he has a tool chest, you? Not so much. You earn a gold, 6 pointed, star for posting the replies that I made that took some time to get on your friendly blog. Respect for putting them up there. However, you believe the torah? And the injeel? Please see 109, wasn’t that what mo said long before it was corrupted? And by the way, where is mo’s book during his time? I will tell you, in the hands of the jews and christians.
    @stew, “10:99 -100.” C’mon stew, 2:191-193. Context stew? Sahih Muslim 2658, Book 46, Hadith 33, you’ze guys don’t take responsibility for anything. By the way, happy trails to you until we meet again.
    @atlas, you said it abdul. Is he muslim or jew? Non-muslim I’d say, born of kafir parents and a jew to boot through his own mouth. Or was he lying? You (Islam) have the same law for adultery? Check out the Sahih Muslim above. 6000 or 6 billion, it does not make a difference. It is like arguing over the serving plate when all that matters is what is on the plate, not the plate. What questions brought forth? Oh you mean the one about plate or the one about the entree?
    @tony, when you get here, please get in line with the other stooges.
    You’ze guys will have to get in line and take turns.

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    1. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Still avoiding your silly Bible’s young earth cosmology, snowflake? Answer the question. Why should anyone trust their salvation to a silly little book that repeats ignorant myths from antiquity?

      6000 or 6 billion doesn’t make a difference? Says who? Well, first of all, it’s more like 4 billion, dummy. Second, your Bible missed the age of the earth by several billion years! Your holy spirit was way off! Yep, defitniely a couple of wrenches missing there. ๐Ÿคฃ

      If your Bible doesn’t know the true age of the earth, then how can it be from God? Answer the question, snowflake. You’re embarrassing your religion. Surely, you can do better?

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      1. Atlas

        “Surely, you can do better?”
        I now think he is actually stupid and not acting like it. Like what does his comment even mean. It’s like random words thrown together and the presented as an argument. What am I reading??????

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  13. Medical journals, such as the Journal of Brain Neuroscience Research, have published the results of years organ donor research regarding brain transplants. 9 out of 10 neurosurgeons, the 10th is usually on vacation, prefer to use the donated muslim brain. When asked why these curious statistics lean that way, Dr. Ben Golfing answered, the popularity of the muslim as the preferred choice is that it is brand new brain! It has never been used.

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  14. Since I am a little slow, drugs are bad mmk?, 60s 70s 80s 90s were bad decades. Would you show me the numbers leading to a sum of approximately 6000 years? Also, if you wouldn’t mind, where was Eden? Also, how long were Adam and Eve tenants in Eden before being evicted? By the way, how do you know that Terah was Abram’s father? I thought that Abram’s father was Azar? See Sahih al-Bukhari 3350 Book 60 hadith 30. I can’t blame mo for this, I mean, how is a thief supposed to know what they are stealing? What scientific miracles are in the quran? LoL, wait, wait, get off of your saddle, that was a rhetorical question-since you won’t answer the one about the source of baby batter! I await your mathematical proof, shalom or aloha, whichever you refer!

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    1. Lol, are you really that dumb? You must be because I already showed the evidence, you pathetic monkey! Here it is again:

      Since the Bible provides a detailed genealogy starting from Adam,[27]ย it becomes clear that from the first day of Creation to the present day, only about 6,000 years have gone by.[28]ย  In other words, according to the Bible, the Earth is only about 6,000 years old.ย  Given the scientific evidence presented above, the Biblical claim is a clear error.ย ย 

      ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  However, some Christians have argued that the age of the Earth cannot be determined from the genealogies and hence argue that the Biblical genealogies should not be taken literally.[29]ย  Instead, they argue that when the genealogy refers to โ€œfatherโ€ and โ€œsonโ€, it could also be referring to an โ€œancestorโ€ and a โ€œdescendantโ€ and hence, we cannot know how many years had lapsed from Adam to Abraham.ย  While it is true that the Hebrew wordย โ€œabโ€ย can mean both a literalย โ€œfatherโ€ย andย โ€œancestorโ€,[30]ย and the wordย โ€œbenโ€ย can mean both a literalย โ€œsonโ€andย โ€œdescendantโ€,[31]ย this argument fails for some very simple reasons in the case of the genealogies.ย 

      ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  First, if the Biblical figures mentioned in the genealogies of Genesis 5 and 11 are not necessarily โ€œfatherโ€ and โ€œsonโ€, then it means that the genealogies have gaps which can exceed thousands of generations (if we attempt to harmonize the Bible with science).ย  If that is true, then these genealogies have no meaning and we have to question why they are even part of scripture.[32]ย  What would be the point of mentioning a genealogy which separates two people by hundreds or thousands of generations?ย ย 

      ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Second, the context of the genealogies indicates that nothing other than a literal father-son relationship is implied.ย  As โ€œAnswers in Genesisโ€ points out:

      โ€œโ€ฆadditional biographical information in Genesis 5 and 11 strongly supports the view that there are no gaps in these chapters. So we know for certain that the following are literal father/son relationships: Adam/Seth, Seth/Enosh, Lamech/Noah, Noah/Shem, Eber/Peleg, and Terah/Abram. Nothing in these chapters indicates that the โ€œXย begatย Yโ€ means something other than a literal father/son relationship.โ€[33]

      Put schematically, we can see that from Adam to Shem in the Genesis 5 genealogy, six of the eleven names mentioned are clearly linked in literal father-son relationships:

      Adamโ€“Sethโ€“Enosh-Kenan-Mahalel-Jared-Enoch-Methusaleh-Lamechโ€“Noahโ€“Shem

      Thus, why would we assume that the other five names are also not linked by the same relationships?ย  In fact, the New Testament helps us to lock in Kenan, Mahalel, Jared and Enoch in literal father-son relationships as well.[34]ย  According to Jude 1:14, Enoch was theย โ€œseventh from Adamโ€:

      โ€œEnoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: โ€œSee, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy onesโ€ฆโ€

      If Enoch was theย โ€œseventh from Adamโ€, it means he was Adamโ€™s great-great-great-great-grandson, which makes Jared the great-great-great-grandson and so on.ย  Therefore, ten of the eleven names are now linked, with only Methuselah left:ย ย 

      Adam (1)โ€“Seth (2)โ€“Enosh (3)โ€“Kenan (4)โ€“Mahalel (5)โ€“Jared (6)โ€“Enoch (7)-Methusaleh-Lamechโ€“Noahโ€“Shem

      Keeping the โ€œancestor-descendantโ€ argument in mind, there is nothing outside of Genesis 5 which clearly links Methuselah as Enochโ€™s literal son, even though he is mentioned in other genealogies as the son of Enoch (and that is all the context really allows).[35]ย  Nevertheless, it is clear that the other names are all part of literal father-son relationships and not โ€œancestor-descendantโ€ relationships, and thus, Enoch and Methusaleh should be no different.ย  Now let us look at the genealogy in Genesis 11.

      ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  The genealogy goes like this:

      Shem-Arphaxad-Shelah-Eber-Peleg-Reu-Serug-Nahor-Terah-Abraham

      We already know that Eber/Peleg and Terah/Abraham have literal father-son relationships.ย  That leaves six names unaccounted for.ย  Yet, we can also add Shem and Arphaxad because it is clear that Shem was the father of Arphaxad and not his โ€œancestorโ€, as is clear from Genesis 11:10, which states that Shem โ€œfatheredโ€ Arphaxad onlyย two yearsย after the flood:

      โ€œThis is the account of Shemโ€™s family line. Two years after the flood, when Shem was 100 years old, he became the father of Arphaxad.โ€

      Hence, six of the ten names are now linked:

      Shemโ€“Arphaxad-Shelah-Eberโ€“Peleg-Reu-Serug-Nahor-Terahโ€“Abraham

      But Shelah can certainly be added since it would not make sense to place a distant โ€œancestorโ€ between Arphaxad and Eber.ย  Indeed, why would we assume that Shelah was perhaps only a distant โ€œancestorโ€ of Eber or that Reu was a distant โ€œdescendantโ€ of Peleg?ย  Similarly, why would we assume that the other three are also not linked?ย  Clearly, there is no rhyme or reason to claiming that โ€œabโ€ and โ€œbenโ€ had any other meaning other than as literal โ€œfatherโ€ and โ€œsonโ€, respectively.ย  Indeed, out of the twenty names mentioned in Genesis 5 and 11, from Adam to Abraham, sixteen can be undoubtedly linked.ย  Based on this undeniable proof, the only reasonable conclusion is that when we add the number of years together in these genealogies, we can calculate the age of the earth as being around 6,000 years.ย ย ย 

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    2. Your Bible insists that Eden was on earth. Of course, its just another myth. There is no such place on Earth. Thanks for showing another reason why no rational person would trust their salvation on a book of silly myths! ๐Ÿ˜

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    3. It gets worse for snowflake and his junkie holy spirit!

      Genesis 1 states that the act of creation took 6 days.[6]ย  During this period, the heavens and the Earth were created and the latter was populated with plants and animals as well as the first humans (Adam and Eve).ย  This conflicts with scientific data since it is firmly established that the formation of the universe and even the Earth took billions of years.ย  For example, the scientific consensus is that the Earth:

      โ€œโ€ฆbegan to take shape slightly over 4.5 billion years ago.ย  Within 50 million years, its core had formed and, in turn, generated a magnetic field.ย  However, it was not until the atmosphere and surface of the crust were relatively stable, about 3.8 billion years ago, that life had a good chance to evolve and thrive.โ€[7]

      Some Christians have objected to the claim that the Bible describes the creation of the world in six literal days.[8]ย  They refer to Psalm 90:4, which states that a day was not necessarily a literal 24-hour period:

      โ€œA thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.โ€

      Yet even if a day was 1,000 years, it would still not agree with scientific facts since โ€œsix daysโ€ would be like โ€œsix thousand yearsโ€.ย  The creation of the universe took billions of years.[9]ย  Moreover, other passages in the Bible clearly show that a day was really a 24-hour day.ย  For example:

      โ€œโ€œRemember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.โ€[10]

      We can see very clearly that a regular day like the Sabbath is compared to the seventh day of Creation when God allegedly โ€œrestedโ€ and that the six days wherein laboring was allowed are compared to the six days of Creation.ย  If the seventh โ€œdayโ€ was supposed to be thousands or even millions of years long, the comparison to the Sabbath of the Israelites would not be appropriate.ย  Similarly, if the six โ€œdaysโ€ of Creation were supposed to be thousands or millions of years, the comparison to the six-day work week of the Israelites would not be appropriate.

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  15. “the scientific consensus is that the Earth:” <== look at that, proof positive that you are not a scientist nor do you understand the nature of science. Consensus in the 70s said we would have an ice age soon. Consensus in the 19th century said that light waves needed the mysterious medium called the aether to travel from the sun to the earth. Consensus in the 90s and 2000s said that man is the cause of climate change. Consensus means popular opinion, and it is not science, nor fact. For science has never, ever proven anything true. All you did was copy/paste your response. You did not provide the numbers, you know: 1+2+3+4+567 = 577, all the way up to around 6000. Cmon haoule! Can't you provide the digits to be added? Another tangent, respect to atlas, why does the night of determination (97:3) last 83.3 years? Hmmmm?

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  16. If I would have said the answer is 6000. You would probably say, how did you get that, show me? LoL since you are claiming the bible “says”, you still have not provided the numbers. Big claims need big proof! The only spirit that is tongue tied is yours, oh wait, you’ze guys don’t have a spirit maybe a tongue to go with the shin, two right hands, blah blah blah. Show me, silence me. We eagerly await your evidence…I will listen to the crickets sing in the meantime, or is that the cockroaches, or maybe that is 109? I hear the cockroaches went on a hajj!
    By the way where is allah’s airforce? Aint they supposed to defend the kabba?

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    1. Awww, what’s the matter snowflake? Playing dumb to avoid admitting the sad truth about your Bible? I showed you the evidence, dummy. Now either try to refute it or admit that your god doesn’t know the age of the earth. You mustn’t blame him of course. He has an old man with white hair. He just needs some self-esteem. Maybe get him some Just for Men?

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    2. Silly goose, the genealogies in your Bible cannot possibly cover the amount of time that has actually gone by. How old was Adam when he died? Now go down the list and do the math. Come on, I know you can do it even if your holy spirit can’t! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    3. Atlas

      Has this lowlife coward EVER given a straight answer???
      70% of the things he says not only are off topic, but seem like random senteses thrown together. Wth is this idiot saying????
      Al Qadr night has been given the value of 83 years to encourage the believers to use it to get closer to God and seek His Forgiveness.

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  17. Shalom Schlomo! You liar, you never make it “easy” for me, lol, only for yourself. Christian blog? “Here look, this christian website says that jesus was only a prophet, lol.” Gee thanks for more copy/paste! The truth is that you cannot say how much time has gone by, and I do not bother with man made conjectures. “Consensus” is propaganda. Good science knows better. You are propaganda. Let me put it this way, let me make it easy for you, have you thought about the earth’s age in terms of population? Prolly not since you don’t think much. Fear has nothing to do with making calculations. You made the claim so the burden is on you, not me. You put me in the position to make a judgement so you have to provide the proof; however, fear has everything to do with you and your profit and his moon god – the Lah. All you have is lies upon lies upon lies, 2:106 & 6:68, heck the profit can’t even remember his creation story as he is confused as to what was created and when. 6000 or 6 billion, how about that Fullham football club? Say what? Exactly!

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    1. Hahahaha, poor snowflake has no idea how to respond! Conjecture? Your Bible gives detailed genealogies you buffoon! Until you can provide actual evidence to refute what I have shown, then you are embarrassing yourself and your holy spirit! Care to offer a substantive rebuttal for once, you deranged simian? Snowflake want a banana? ๐Ÿต๐ŸŒ

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    2. since solomon, moses and the scribes after him were sinners, what makes you think solomon, moses and the scribes after him did not change the text of torah? in second century as well as first ,sinful crosstians were Raping biblical texts and CHANGING biblical stories

      https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/14990

      Now why do the later prophets in ot seem to concentrate more on PRAYER, DEEDS, REPENTANCE ….was priestly rituals not doing the job? Or was it that torah writers(SINNERS AS U CALL them) were inventing USELESS rituals and telling people “god told us”

      torah is product of scribes who u IDENTIFY AS sinners, these same people forgot gods laws and THOUGHT IDOLATRY went back all the way to abraham. now tell me, why do u trust stories in torah especially the ones about ANIMAL sacrifices?

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      1. Hey look it’s shemp aka tony, the 4th stooge, welcome aboard sinner! Did you catch up? Conjecture from schlomo and now you add probability? Seriously?? They probably changed the text of the torah, they probably changed/raped the gospel (on a side note the only one that admits to raping the bible is bill maher), Richard Carrier is an expert on probability, he probably would say the age of the earth and the universe is probably either 6000 or 6 billion, one of those is probably correct!?

        What jewish atonement are you referring to in the OT? You mean the one in the covenant YHWH made with Moses and the people? What torah are you referring to as corrupt? Is it the one in which mo pledged his allegiance? Somo is a jew? Or is mo a corrupt jew? When was it corrupted? Didn’t mo say who revealed the torah to the jews?

        I will answer your question. Why do I trust in the atonement stories? I will start with the prophecy from Jeremiah 31:31-34. the gist of it is as follows: the Lord said that he would make a new covenant with Israel and Judah since they broke the old covenant with Moses. The old covenant was about duty and following a procedure. The new covenant would place the law of YHWH into the heart and soul of the people and renew their relationship with YHWH through the last atonement. The lamb of YHWH was the last atonement. Jesus is the lamb of YHWH, John 1:1 -14. Jesus was crucified, Mark 10: 32-34. Jesus rose from the dead on the 3rd day, Luke 24.
        In John 14:6 Jesus said “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” That is the gospel. Salvation is a free gift from YHWH, by grace through faith and not of your own works, lest any man boast. The torah and the gospel are tied together through atonement.

        So you have a humongous problem. 29:46 & 3:3-4 you’re commanded to acknowledge the torah, instead you say it’s corrupt. But 18:27 says its impossible to corrupt the words. Yet you still claim corruption. 7:157 says the torah and the gospel are good to go & 5:47,68 says I should judge by the gospel (on a side note schlomo told me that jesus says in the gospel ” i am a good person and i love mom”, lol) so mo, the jews and the christians acknowledge the torah and the gospel. And you are in doubt then ask the jews and christians for they know, 10:94. The quran affirms the torah and the gospel. The torah and the gospel reject the quran, Matthew 7:15-20, you will know them by what they do. What did mo do? What did Jesus do?

        Either way, islam is false. You’ze guys are ex-muslim, you just don’t know it yet.

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      2. Hey snowflake, which one is Moe in your trinity team? Is it the father? Is the son Curly? He is the youngest and is quite accident-prone, you know. So that must mean that the holy spirit is Larry. Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk…

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      3. You trust the ot animal sacrifice stories and all the ritualistic stuff in the ot because jeremiah predicted the raping of a man god by yhwh?

        1. So where does jereimiah say ANYTHING about a LAWLESS christian religion?

        2. Where does jeremiah say that only through the raping/shedding of fully man and fully god is there forgiveness of sin?

        3. WHERE does yhwh say that animal shedding replace his ETERNAL and everlasting rituals?

        4. so pagan trusts ot ritials pertaining to animal sacrifices coz jeremiah was imaging yhwh coming down as a man and getting RAPED by romans THROUGH the father…how the fok DOES THAT PROVE THAT THE PRIESTLY STORIES AND THEIR FETTISH WITH ANIMAL SACRIFICE is divinely revealed?

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  18. Hey Schlomo, your nick says it best. Why are you so hung up on the age of the universe? It is not important, it cannot be determined with certitude and it certainly wasn’t important to your profit since he lived from orgasm to orgasm and promised his donkey followers lots of women in pairofdice if they would just kill for him. Whether you use the bible, the expansion rate of the big bang or the size of stars or their burn rate or globular clusters or the Hubble constant which depends on dark matter(good luck finding that matter)or trying to find out the age of the earth from old testament genealogies or even the length of time that you have been lying. It doesn’t matter, because when your time is up, your time is up. The grim reaper is not going to ask you a bonus question promising a few more years of life if you can guess the age of the earth and/or the universe? All you do is say read this read that. Look at what they say, look at what he says, that means it is twu, it’s twu, itsa twu story I swear, sahih buhkari! The bible is false blah blah blah. Follow the letter of the law. Wow, you are a jew! What is important in the quran is that your profit said that your going to hell or pairofdice and you can’t do anything about that, good deeds or bad deeds not withstanding because it was determined when you were in your father’s loins, oops sorry profit forgive me i forgot, his backbone. What is important in the bible is that Jesus said that your salvation is a free gift, by grace through faith and not from your good deeds or else you would be proud and say look at me, I am good. No one on this earth is good, except Jesus. What does the age of the earth have to do with either the quran’s version or the bible’s version of salvation? You can pick up the mic now, it’s on the floor. By the way thanks for answering my questions, Schlomo.

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    1. so your dirty pagan saviour can look at his deeds in flesh and say “hey look at me, i am the only human on earth who is good”
      this makes you an idolater who worships the deeds done in FLESh, “hey my man god IN FLESH does HUMAN DEEEEEDS) so your pathetic yhwh was pathetic being who COULDNT create a being who would obey his laws and NEVER say “hey, look at me”???

      did yhwh give GUIDANCE TO jew because he knew people will say “hey LOOK AT me”

      ? No!

      did yhwh give GUIDANCE to help keep check hate, anger and lust, YES

      for this reason god so loved the world that he gave his laws and rituals that so whoever does them shall have eternal life, jesus can get FLUSHED down ….jesus not needed, yhwh says so.

      If sin brings death , REPENTANCE brings life, no need for a pagan trinity team which has one member RAPING the other member with sins like porn, idolatry…..

      it js jesus in matthew who tells shit heads like u to show your filthy light to the people, he reasons , what good is a light UNDER a bowl. salvation is free gift? Why do pagans crap heads like you have to REPENT, do DEEDS, show your DEEDS TO others, stop doing wrong… if salvation is free gift?

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      1. LoL triggered? Sowwy, my, err, bad! May be I should’ve been more gentle and handed you the mic. Sowwy shemp!

        Do I have to unpack Ephesians 2:8-10 for you? I mean, why can’t you go copy/paste from some website and explain it to yourself? Are you a 7 watt light bulb, a dimwit? <== rhetorical.
        Shempdullah, let me make it easy for you: Ephesians 2:8-10 "8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithโ€”and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godโ€” 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are Godโ€™s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do."

        The penalty for your sins has been paid, death. All who repent and trust in Jesus, receive forgiveness of sins. All receive the same reward, more good deeds will not give you an advantage or allow you to say to YHWH, look at me I am better than others cuz I have done more good deeds.

        YHWH created beings in His image, with free will. You can choose to follow whatever you want. Look at you and schlomo, you'ze guys have not been struck by lightning, yet. You can accept or reject Jesus, you have free will & I guaranteee you that I will not chop your head off if you reject Jesus! But mo did not give anyone a choice. He intimidated, extorted via religious consultations, raped, murdered, stole red underwear, lied and had convenient revelations, and he killed those that left his gang. Heck, mo even ordered the murder of one muslim follower that just prayed too much and too well for his own good, I guess he showed up the profit and the profit got jealous. What happened after mo died? Did anyone leave islam? There are more than one dozen islamic countries with apostasy laws where the penalty is death. What did Asia Bibi do, drink from the wrong cup of water? If they would repeal the apostasy law, thousands of people with free will would leave islam.

        Yes laws are for guidance, don't do this, don't do that, but humans fail because they like to rebel from the laws. Hence all have sinned, except one! John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 14:6 Jesus answered, โ€œI am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." If you have faith and trust in Jesus, you follow his teachings and his example.

        Mo stole something he did not understand. 4:171 O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion, and do not say about God except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, is the Messenger of God, and His Word that He conveyed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and do not say, โ€œThree.โ€ Refrainโ€”it is better for you. God is only one God. Glory be to Himโ€”that He should have a son. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and the earth, and God is a sufficient Protector.
        Jesus is the messnger of YHWH, the word of YHWH and a spirit from YHWH, but they are all one!

        How did mo check lust, hate, anger? He invented mutah, mo won't let you be friends with jews or christians, heck not even your father or you brother is your friend per mo's recommendation. If mo looked at a married woman and lusted after her, her husband would have to immediately divorce her so that mo could have his way with her if you know what I mean, nudge nudge wink wink, lol. Mo fomented hate towards christians and jews. Tell me when you pray do you say don't let me be like those rats and apes? Are you really working towards that end goal? You know, the one with a playboy mansion in pairofdice? The one with a "meat" market to fulfill all of your lustful desires? Wait, I thought you were given laws to check your lust?

        Salvation is on a individual basis. You do not get saved en masse, you know, as a group. Shine your light! Which light will you shine, the example of Jesus or the example of mo. Free will, you choose, shempdullah.

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      2. Oh hear we go! Snowflake needs some more education!

        “Yes laws are for guidance, don’t do this, don’t do that, but humans fail because they like to rebel from the laws. Hence all have sinned, except one! John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 14:6 Jesus answered, โ€œI am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” If you have faith and trust in Jesus, you follow his teachings and his example.”

        LOL!! Well then, Muslims are much better at following Jesus! He prayed and he kept the laws. He was circumcised. But none of this applies to Crosstians! How convenient!

        Plus, according to Ezekiel, the laws are for all time! Another reason why Christianity cannot be true! The Tanakh contradicts the NT. Ezekiel 44:9 even says that uncircumcised pagans like snowflake cannot enter God’s sanctuary! Ouch!! That’s got to hurt worse than the circumcision! Hey snowflake, let me ask you a personal question. You get any smegma down there? I mean you are uncircumcised, right? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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    2. Holy spirit fail yet again!

      Why do I care about the age of the universe? Well, it’s a mix of human curiosity and the need to disprove fraudulent religions like your manworshipping cult. And thank God, we can see that your pathetic false Canaanite god did not know the age of the universe or the earth! Alhamdulillah! You know this deep down inside, snowflake. You just can’t bring yourself around to admit it,. But don’t worry. You are an ex-Christian. You just don’t know it yet! ๐Ÿ˜‰

      We do know the age of the universe and earth with certainty. It is based on observable scientific analysis and experimentation. Even if we can’t be sure exactly, we can ball-park it. And the ball-park figure is WAY larger than your Bible’s guess! The universe is approximately 14 billion years old. The Earth is approximately 4 billion years old. This is why Christianity is false. The Bible was written by ignorant people who believed in silly myths about talking snakes and white-haired gods.

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      1. STILL not answering the question? WOW!! The holy spirit must be really tongue-tied!

        We have seen the age of the earth according to the Bible. It is a little over 6,000 years.

        Scientific data, on the other hand, using methods like carbon dating, estimate the age of the earth at around 4 billion years.

        Hmm…4 billion minus 6,000…that’s quite a difference, eh?

        So now, snowflake, I ask again. Do you admit that your Bible severely underestimates the earth’s age? Come on, simian. You’ll get a banana when you answer.

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  19. [LOL!! Well then, Muslims are much better at following Jesus! He prayed and he kept the laws. He was circumcised. But none of this applies to Crosstians! How convenient! Plus, according to Ezekiel, the laws are for all time! Another reason why Christianity cannot be true! The Tanakh contradicts the NT. Ezekiel 44:9 even says that uncircumcised pagans like snowflake cannot enter Godโ€™s sanctuary! Ouch!! Thatโ€™s got to hurt worse than the circumcision! Hey snowflake, let me ask you a personal question. You get any smegma down there? I mean you are uncircumcised, right?]

    Well if they follow Jesus then they/you are christian! Thanks for pledging allegiance to Jesus, the Son of God.
    Hey schlomo ==> Jeremiah 31:31-34 a new covenant for all men and women, jew and gentile. The OT mosaic covenant is revoked.

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    1. ROFTL!! Snowflake’s delusions are quite strong! What else can you expect from a braindead man-worshiper!

      Hey snowflake, Ezekiel disagrees. The OT mosaic covenant is for all times. God’s sanctuary is closed to you. You uncircumcised pagans need not apply.

      You didn’t answer my question. Do you get smegma down there?

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  20. “he penalty for your sins has been paid, death. ”

    You see what your filthy shitty religion does? It makes you feel GUILTLESS . So when you sinned today, you put your sin on your pagan saviour and thought to your self “the porn i watched has already been POURED on krist…let me CONTINUE TO sin and swim in shitty blood and say its all been paid”

    “All who repent and trust in Jesus”

    no jesus needed. NO TRUST in a pagan phony man god is required since yhwh says he forgives sins .

    ,” receive forgiveness of sins. ”

    yhwh says that human pagan blood sacrifices dont bring forgiveness but curse


    ll receive the same reward, more good deeds will not give you an advantage or allow you to say to YHWH, look at me I am better than others cuz I have done more good deeds.”

    yes yhwh in ot does expect that good deeds can make one better than ONE who does no deeds and yhwh even says that IN his EYES deeds impress him. It is your god who does think DEEDS can SAVE a human coz god himself is IMPRESSED by the deeds. if cain offered yhwh QUALITY vegetables it would have IMPRESSED yhwh.

    “YHWH created beings in His image, with free will. You can choose to follow whatever you want. Look at you and schlomo, you’ze guys have not been struck by lightning, yet. You can accept or reject Jesus, you have free will & I guaranteee you that I will not chop your head off”

    i dont need your shitty guarantee, but i will tell you that you gonna get it worse than head chopping for worshipping a eating and breathing creature who roamed the earth and depended upon another god for his survival. your jesus even ripped of rabbis and sinners like matthew and mark credited jesus. They made up bullshit debates about sabbath when reality was that jews were not sticklers as gospel bs portrays them.

    “if you reject Jesus! But mo did not give anyone a choice. He intimidated, extorted via religious consultations, raped, murdered, stole red underwear, lied and had convenient revelations, and he killed those that left his gang”.

    wasnt jesus doing that stuff with the hebrews in ot days?

    “Heck, mo even ordered the murder of one muslim follower that just prayed too much and too well for his own good, I guess he showed up the profit and the profit got jealous. What happened after mo died? Did anyone leave islam? There are more than one dozen islamic countries with apostasy laws where the penalty is death. What did Asia Bibi do, drink from the wrong cup of water? If they would repeal the apostasy law, thousands of people with free will would leave islam.”

    what did yhwh say in his “eternal torah” about leaving yhwh worship and selling /prostituting heart to other gods? How many people left yhwhism when jews Stopped following yhwhs laws? Read book of kings to see what happened. so you seem to be alright with pagan system coz it is the pagans who do not have laws in relation to who u worship. jesus said that yhwhs laws are ETERNAL so jesus was all for FORCING ppl to stay in his religion. u are a fukin pagan who wishes to have a house where EVERYONE WORSHIP what he or she wants, how would a goverment function if laws are coming from DIFFERENT made up gods(wink wink vishu, jesus, budda, ….)? since there are ignorants like u , how to tame ignorant for spreading any lie about ones religion?

    “Yes laws are for guidance, don’t do this, don’t do that”

    Bullshit! yhwh says they HELPED the hebrews live a good and godly life AND every time the hebrews strayed yhwh told the hebrews to GO BACK AND PRACTICE his laws and ritiuals

    , “ut humans fail because they like to rebel from the laws. ”

    crosstian shit, didnt yhwh know that he was GIVING his laws to rebellious people? When he gave his laws did he say “you must be PERFECT and sinless” ? No , he did not say this and he said nothing about jesus’ blood. look, even after shit head like u swimming in jebus blood , u rebel and CONTINUE to do sin, yet yhwh said the SOLUTION WAS TO GO BACK AND PRACTICE HIS LAWS AND RITUALS

    “ence all have sinned, except one! ”

    Lol, jesus was a human being. how many sins did he do when he was a teenager, when he was alone in a room how many sin he did? Ot says that jesus was a sinner because he was FULLY human. Ot says All HUMANS sins including jesus.

    “ohn 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 14:6 Jesus answered, โ€œI am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” If you have faith and trust in Jesus, you follow his teachings and his example.”

    lol “his teachings” lol

    1.did u give up ur money and live in card board box?
    2. When u look at your neighbors wife, do u look lustfully and PLUCK out your eye or do you pour it on jesus? do u see how your atonement completely takes CONSEQUENCE of sin away from your consciousness? It has jesus as a wife one can BEAT on and say “its paid for”
    Your shitty “REPENTANCE” INCLUDES “ITS paid for”
    THIS IS NOT THE REPENTANCE OF THE PROPHETS

    Ot says one can go DIRECTLY TO the father without jesus. Ot says in psalms god hears the prayers of those who call upon him.

    “Mo stole something he did not understand. 4:171 O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion, and do not say about God except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, is the Messenger of God, and His Word that He conveyed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and do not say, โ€œThree.โ€ Refrainโ€”it is better for you. God is only one God. Glory be to Himโ€”that He should have a son. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and the earth, and God is a sufficient Protector.
    Jesus is the messnger of YHWH, the word of YHWH and a spirit from YHWH, but they are all one!”

    no where does the text in quran identify spirit or word as ALLAH /God

    so since jebus is identified as WORD of yhwh, then does that mean the ten commandments are jesus since each commandment has One Separate word?

    so u have spirit and word ? How much spirit and word is yhwh LOL?

    “How did mo check lust, hate, anger? ”

    “He invented mutah, ”

    mutah was a judeo christian thing derived from holy bible , jesus and yhwh

    “mo won’t let you be friends with jews or christians, heck not even your father or you brother is your friend per mo’s recommendation.”

    jesus told u to say fuck of to your mothers brothers and sisters , abandon family , family responsibility and join his false cult which made false predictions

    f” mo looked at a married woman and lusted after her, her husband would have to immediately divorce her so that mo could have his way with her if you know what I mean, nudge nudge wink wink, lol. ”

    Wink wink krist in trinity thought lot about penetrating beautiful prisoner of war , shaving head and then wink wink

    “o fomented hate towards christians and jews. Tell me when you pray do you say don’t let me be like those rats and apes? ”

    Yes, “please GOd do not let me be like this accursed Rat and ape who worships FRAGMENTED gods and pagan incarnate god who couldnt FORGIVE sins .

    re you really working towards that end goal? You know, the one with a playboy mansion in pairofdice? The one with a “meat” market to fulfill all of your lustful desires? Wait, I thought you were given laws to check your lust?”

    In heaven having sex will have nothing to do with christian west lust

    “alvation is on a individual basis. You do not get saved en masse, you know, as a group. Shine your light! Which light will you shine, the example of Jesus or the example of mo. Free will, you choose, shempdullah”

    the light of muhammad who is mercy to the worlds .

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  21. one wonders why crosstians talk about “look at my deeds ” when they fully know that QUran says not to attribute righteousness to oneself and that it is the ALMIGHTY who declares one righteous and it in His sight one is righteous.

    and

    When we talk about Gods forgiveness and mercy and tell them that God does not need jesus to be forgiving and merciful and neither does human need jesus blood to seek GOd or talk to God, crosstians will try to sell the belief but the father is DISTANT god and the son willingly came to get butchered by the angry and blood thristy father. Sorry NEITHER God or human need jesus, stop tallking about “hey look at my deeds…”
    STOP portraying your yhwh as NEEDING blood to be merciful. Stop coming here and selling your cracked BRICK wall and make it go between. yhwh says his laws and RITUALS (REPETITIVE ONES) MAKE one righteous. yhwh want works works and works and nice aromans and QUALITY produce. even animal sacrifices were all about works and BEST offerings. yhwh is a god who wants works and he says in genesis WORKS saves

    .

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  22. We interrupt your regularly scheduled response with breaking news: a situation has developed at a local apartment complex. It has been reported that two abduls are barricaded inside of their flat and refuse to come out. Neighbors reported that cursing, screaming, wailing and the sound of gnashing teeth could be heard for miles. Authorities state that the abduls have threatened to harm themselves if their demands are not met. A source close to the local authorities, who wishes to remain anonymous, said the abduls were triggered when they read the bible. A professional psychologist trained in post traumatic stress disorder has been sent in to reduce the fear that has overtaken these two victims. When asked what can he do to de-escalate the situation, the psychologist replied that he would recite contradictory verses from the quran to the abduls and say that they mean the same thing. When asked if he meant that he would lie to the abduls, the negotiator said “yes” but not to worry as they are used to it and it will make em feel at home. We will update the story as it develops. This has been LarsLars Pantsonfars reporting to you from The Triggered Court Apartment complex in the township of Pairofdice. We now return you to your regularly scheduled shempdullah and schlomo show.

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    1. We interrupt this comedy marathon to bring you breaking news: a Christian clown is on the loose. He is considered hilarious and has been described as a sort of village idiot. If you encounter this person, please call the nearest insane asylum.

      Thank you for your attention. We now return you to your comedy marathon, already under way.

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  23. Ladies and gentlemen, and yes I just did assume your genders, on stage now, please put your hands together and give a warm welcome to the newest sensation in music, GARBAGE, with their newest hit song, STUPID DONKEY:

    You pretend you’re chaste
    You pretend you’re peace
    You pretend you’re anything
    Just to feel feliz
    And what you want
    Is what you get
    Don’t believe in hope
    Don’t believe in faith
    Don’t believe in anything
    That you can’t break
    Stupid donkey
    Stupid donkey
    Can’t believe you fake it
    Can’t believe you fake it

    What drives you on
    Will drive you mad
    A million lies to sell yourself
    Is all you ever had
    Donโ€™t believe in truth
    Don’t believe in grace
    Donโ€™t believe in anything
    Jinn’s can’t debase
    Stupid donkey
    Stupid donkey
    All you had you wasted
    All you had you wasted

    Don’t believe in grace
    Don’t believe in life
    Don’t believe in anything
    To be specific, Christ
    Stupid donkey
    Stupid donkey
    Can’t believe you fake it
    All you had you wasted
    All you had you wasted
    You stupid abduls

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    1. Snowflake and the holy spirit apparently have too much time on their hands.

      So what can we conclude? The holy spirit is tongue-tied, and unable to answer difficult questions, so it has to try to distract with meaningless and comedic comments. Why is the earth only 6,000 years old according to the Bible? Why was Jesus a sinner according to the Bible? Why is snowflake a coward?

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      1. LoL if you were given all of the intellectual tools to make a rational, accurate and precise conclusion, you would still not be able to conclude your way out of a wet, soggy paper bag!
        1) No where in the bible does it state that the earth and or the universe is 6000 or 6 billion years old.
        2) Everywhere in the bible it states that Jesus was holy and sinless.
        3) I am here, aint I? Telling news stories, telling jokes, triggering donkeys, singing songs, sharing the gospel. Thank you lord Jesus, it is a good day every day with you in this life. Without Jesus? Not so much. Amen.

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      2. Aww, snowflake is clueless! It’s so adorable watching this clown struggle to answer the arguments against his Bible!

        1. As I already showed, the Biblical genealogies can be used to count back to the beginning of creation, which comes to around 6,000 years ago. Snowflake has yet to refute this. I wonder why?

        2. LOL!! Then the Bible is self-contradictory. It can say he was sinless all it wants, but when it gives an account of his life where he clearly sinned (like lying and destroying other’s people’s property), then it is hard to take the “sinless” argument seriously. It’s like when Catholics say that the pope is “infallible”, but the reality shows otherwise. They can say he is “infallible” all they want, but when he keeps proving that he isn’t, their argument is moot.

        3. Total number of questions answered by snowflake and his holy spirit: 0. It’s a good day without snowflake’s pagan god in this life.

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  24. Schlomo:
    1) You didn’t show jack and that’s a fact. You don’t believe in 6000 but you are dying for me to say 6000. You are mad cuz you can’t paint me into a corner. LoL.
    2) References where he lied, lol, destroyed property, uuuuu, that is terrible, references again, especially where breaking a table if an if that is what happened is also a sin? Pope is infallible when he quotes Jesus, not when the pope gives his opinion.
    3) All questions answered, you just can’t deal with it because a million lies to sell yourself is all you ever had.

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    1. Snowflake:
      1) I did show how to calculate the age of the earth using the Biblical genealogies. Your holy spirit is tongue-tied and doesn’t know how to respond. I don’t need to you say “6000”. It’s already clear you know the truth but don’t want to admit it. You’re already in a corner! LoL.
      2) Ah, finally! Snowflake wants “references”. Sure, here you go:

      Jesus lying – “You go to the festival. I am not[b] going up to this festival, because my time has not yet fully come.โ€ 9 After he had said this, he stayed in Galilee.10 However, after his brothers had left for the festival, he went also, not publicly, but in secret.” (John 7:8-10)

      Jesus clearly lied to his followers. He said he was not going to the festiva, but then went anyway “in secret”. Busted!

      Jesus destroying property – ” A large herd of pigs was feeding on the nearby hillside. 12 The demons begged Jesus, โ€œSend us among the pigs; allow us to go into them.โ€ 13 He gave them permission, and the impure spirits came out and went into the pigs. The herd, about two thousand in number, rushed down the steep bank into the lake and were drowned. 14 Those tending the pigs ran off and reported this in the town and countryside, and the people went out to see what had happened.” (Mark 5:11-14)

      Jesus allowed some demons to possess the pigs, without even asking the owner if it was permissible. The pigs drowned. Of course, one has to wonder why there were pigs in a Jewish area but that’s besides the point. Busted!

      3) LOL, the questions remain unanswered. Snowflake sounds mad! Blame your tongue-tied holy spirit, not me!

      By adding up the years in the Biblical genealogies, do we come to a figure of 6,023 years? Yes or no, snowflake?

      Did Jesus sin when he said he would not go to the festival but then went anyway in secret? Isn’t that lying?
      Did Jesus sin when he caused the deaths of some pigs and didn’t ask permission from the owner or compensate him in anyway?
      Snowflake’s savior is BUSTED!

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  25. LoL
    That is the one where he …gasp…lied? Schlomo, there is a reason you are schlomo:
    John 7 King James Version (KJV)
    7:
    1 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.
    2 Now the Jew’s feast of tabernacles was at hand.
    3 His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.
    4 For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world.
    5 For neither did his brethren believe in him.
    6 Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready.
    7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
    8 Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast: for my time is not yet full come. [<== right there]
    9 skip
    10 But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret.
    11 Then the Jews sought him at the feast, and said, Where is he? [<== he didn't show up to the party]
    12 skip 13 skip
    14 Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. [<== he went to teach at the temple, he didn't go to the party]
    15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?
    16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
    17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

    He didn't lie, you either lied or misconstrued what he said and did. Another million lies to sell yourself!

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    1. Lol, it’s still a lie no matter what the reason, stupid! ๐Ÿ˜‚

      Jesus could have simply told his followers to go and that he would join them later, or he could have told them he didn’t want people to see him. But no. He decided to say something false, to his followers no less. That’s a lie and he is BUSTED! ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

      This is why you’re snowflake, a tongue-tied loser.

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  26. Once a schlomo always a schlomo. Is that how it goes? Not really, unless you want to remain a schlomo. In your case, you want to remain a schlomo, so that makes you a certified schlomo. His followers urged him to go to the party with them so that he could gain more popularity. However he said it is not my time yet so I will not go to the party, which he did not do so, he instead went to the temple to teach without their knowing. It’s like saying that a football player was at the game but not in the game. Spectator vs participant. Can’t believe you fake it…stupid abdul…

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    1. your false pagan “saviour”
      Was clearly doing taqiyah

      So his brothers said to him, โ€œLeave here and go to Judea so that your disciples also may see the works you are doing; 4 for no one who wants[c] to be widely known acts in secret.

      they r right:

      Quote:

      Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

      If you do these things, show yourself to the world.โ€ 5 (For not even his brothers believed in him.) 6 Jesus said to them, โ€œMy time has not yet come, but your time is always here. 7 The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify against it that its works are evil.

      jesus’ was not so confident like he was in matthew, poor pagan jesus.

      8 Go to the festival yourselves. I am not[d] going to this festival, for my time has not yet fully come.โ€ 9 After saying this, he remained in Galilee.

      Jesus at the Festival of Booths
      10 But after his brothers had gone to the festival, then he also went, not publicly but as it were[e] in secret. 11 The Jews were looking for him at the festival and saying, โ€œWhere is he?โ€

      Question:

      jesus meets his brothers at the festival, one of them said “but u said that u r not GOING TO the festival….stop playing taqia….

      ofcourse pharisee gonna say “where is he” jesus went in hiding like hiding and avoid being seen, thats the only way his taqiah going to work

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      1. “Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. ”

        BUSTED again! Snowflake’s savior was afraid and he was a liar!

        Nice work brother tony!

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    2. LOL, once a snowflake, always a snowflake. So again no response? What is it with your holy spirit? This guy can never offer a substantive rebuttal!

      Your mangod said he was not going to go to the festival, and then went anyway. Let’s read it again:

      “You go to the festival. I am not[b] going up to this festival, because my time has not yet fully come.”

      Whatever the reason was for his brothers to ask him to go to the festival is irrelevant stupid. Your mangod said he would not go, so they went without him. No one was pressuring him to go. He then went in secret. That is called a lie, you dingbat! Thank you for proving once again that you are a clown and so is your holy spirit!

      So sorry to burst your bubble, snowflake. Youre savior was a sinner, just like you. You are still in your sins and Yahweh is going to burn you in hell. What a bummer!

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  27. Another spectacular fail schlomo:
    Mark 5:
    9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.

    10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.

    11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.

    12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. <== the devils asked to be sent into the swine abdul, not the other way around. You hold yourself up to have god like standards, you are a class 1 idolater. Since when do you tell Jesus to ask for your permission?

    13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.

    You like to walk with your head held up, high and proud when you go through a cow pasture.

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    1. ROFTL!! Another non-response? Idiot, what did you prove here? Did your mangod ask the owner’s permission to use his pigs as holding vessels for the demons? Did your mangod compensate the owner for the loss of his pigs? Answer the questions, stupid!

      Oh and I forgot. I asked you before if you get any smegma down in your private parts. You haven’t answered yet. Why so shy, snowflake? I know you probably had to Google the word “smegma”.

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  28. Interesting that when jinn or demons encounter Jesus they worship him or they beg Jesus to leave them alone, don’t hurt us:
    Mark 5:
    7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.

    But when it comes to mo, he gets possessed by the jinn or demons.
    Narrated Aisha:

    Once the Prophet (๏ทบ) was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done.

    ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ููŠ ู…ูุญูŽู…ู‘ูŽุฏู ุจู’ู†ู ุงู„ู’ู…ูุซูŽู†ู‘ูŽู‰ุŒ ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ูŽุง ูŠูŽุญู’ูŠูŽู‰ุŒ ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ูŽุง ู‡ูุดูŽุงู…ูŒุŒ ู‚ูŽุงู„ูŽ ุญูŽุฏู‘ูŽุซูŽู†ููŠ ุฃูŽุจููŠุŒ ุนูŽู†ู’ ุนูŽุงุฆูุดูŽุฉูŽุŒ ุฃูŽู†ู‘ูŽ ุงู„ู†ู‘ูŽุจููŠู‘ูŽ ุตู„ู‰ ุงู„ู„ู‡ ุนู„ูŠู‡ ูˆุณู„ู… ุณูุญูุฑูŽ ุญูŽุชู‘ูŽู‰ ูƒูŽุงู†ูŽ ูŠูุฎูŽูŠู‘ูŽู„ู ุฅูู„ูŽูŠู’ู‡ู ุฃูŽู†ู‘ูŽู‡ู ุตูŽู†ูŽุนูŽ ุดูŽูŠู’ุฆู‹ุง ูˆูŽู„ูŽู…ู’ ูŠูŽุตู’ู†ูŽุนู’ู‡ูโ€.โ€
    Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 3175
    In-book reference : Book 58, Hadith 17

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      O nice the idiot that never answers the objections to his pornbook has yet again blessed us with another moronic comment. The hadith you quoted is only one part of the story. If you look at the remaining part, it says that God send an angel to get rid of the magic. But according to your mangod satan cannont cast out satan. Hence the spirit that was sent was not demonic but was an actual angel. This wouldn’t happen if he wasn’t the prophet of God. So thank you for confirming he is indeed a prophet of God.

      Secondly your pornbook has Satan himself taking your mangod to a mountain. Not only is he not afraid to come near him but he takes him thousands of miles to a mountain. So much for your “demon argument”.
      And this also shows your pornbook confirms a flat earth since it says he is took to a high mountain and shown the kingdoms of the earth.

      You’re the most pathetic crossworshiping loser I have ever seen. Making the most childish, dumbass comments. Like WTF is this??????
      Grow up dumbass and answer the questions. The 6000 year argument is still left unanswered. A weak religion with weak followers that can’t defend their pornbook. How pathetic!

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      1. LOL brother, this guy is the funniest clown I have ever seen! He is absolutely clueless!

        He cannot refute the 6,000 years argument. He cannot refute that his savior was a sinner. All he can do is mouth off and expose his shoddy religion for the garbage that it is. LOL!!

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    2. and satan who is supposed to be the leader of his little minions is WORSHIPPED by his little minions/devils/jinns . So devils worshipping a human is no different than crosstian worshipping devil since you are ALL created.

      and while your jesus was hanging on the cross, why did these jews forget “one must bind strongman/satan/jesus/devil” ????

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  29. I will use one post to address the azar brothers: shempdullah, schlomo and jockostrap.

    1) Jesus did not lie. He went to the temple in Jerusalem and not the festival. The disciples went to the festival and not the temple. Jesus taught at the temple until the last festival day and he did not meet his disciples at the temple or at the festival. The disciples were right only as far as how mere men think, that is why Jesus said it isn’t his time yet:
    John7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

    Taquiyya is youz guys expertise. The azar bros lie as does mo and al lah. How come the jews have not been turned into apes and rats? How come muslims do not have donkey faces? How come the sun does not set in a pool of muddy water? Why do you say no compulsion but there is death if you leave? What was created first, the earth or the sky? Just a few examples of lies in the quran.

    2) Read it again jockostrap azar, if if if, satan kicks out satan then satan’s world is in anarchy and cannot be effective. Satan showed him the worldy things to tempt him but he did not get possessed by satan. How was he shown the kingdoms of the earth? iPad? Fred Flinstone tablet? Film projector? How does that imply that the earth is flat? The only thing implied is that you do not comprehend.
    Q79:30 ==> the earth is flat. Flat earthers from all around the globe agree that the earth is flat. And by flat earthers I mean muslims, show some respect for your profit and his (others actually) booq!

    3) Finally the 6000/6 billion bonus answer: but it is answered by asking a few questions. Is God eternal and thus not confined by space and time? When did time begin? On which day did God create earth? How long before rain began on earth? How long before river channels and other natural features developed on earth? When did God create the stars? When did time begin for humans? Is death related to time for Adam and Eve? What day were Adam and Eve created? What day did Adam and Eve eat of the forbidden fruit? What happened to Adam and Eve after eating the fruit, in other words, what was the curse? Death? So if death, aging, began after they ate the fruit, how long were they in the garden before they ate the fruit? Go read Genesis 1 and 2 again.

    The age of the universe or of the earth is not explicitly stated anywhere in the bible, nor can it be inferred. The only thing you can count on is when Adam’s “death clock” began. Adam’s death clock does not equal the age of the universe or of the earth.

    Triggered? Again? I Sowwy, don’t wanna die, so I fly, but I leave a Snickers for the beasts, leave a snickers for the beasts.

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    1. “Jesus did not lie. He went to the temple in Jerusalem and not the festival. The disciples went to the festival and not the temple. Jesus taught at the temple until the last festival day and he did not meet his disciples at the temple or at the festival. The disciples were right only as far as how mere men think, that is why Jesus said it isnโ€™t his time yet:
      John7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.”

      Hey guys, snowflake is lying for the lying Jesus! It looks like both of them are Pinocchio!

      “Not until halfway through the festival did Jesus go up to the temple courts and begin to teach.”

      So Jesus went to the festival, and only later did he go to the temple. Stop lying snowflake! I know it’s embarrassing to learn that your savior was sinful and that you are going to hell, but lying will not make it better. Is this the best argument you could copy from your brainless brethren? No wonder it took you so long since your last comment, eh? ๐Ÿ˜‰

      ” Read it again jockostrap azar, if if if, satan kicks out satan then satanโ€™s world is in anarchy and cannot be effective. Satan showed him the worldy things to tempt him but he did not get possessed by satan. How was he shown the kingdoms of the earth? iPad? Fred Flinstone tablet? Film projector? How does that imply that the earth is flat? The only thing implied is that you do not comprehend.
      Q79:30 ==> the earth is flat. Flat earthers from all around the globe agree that the earth is flat. And by flat earthers I mean muslims, show some respect for your profit and his (others actually) booq!”

      Well what a coincidence! I just published a new article addressing this issue and proved without a doubt that Matthew 4:8 alludes to a flat earth! Perhaps you should check it out snowflake: https://quranandbibleblog.wordpress.com/2019/01/14/the-flat-earth-controversy-analyzing-the-quran-and-the-bible/

      Get educated snowflake. Your blind copying of brainless trinitarian pagans like Christian princess is leading you astray.

      “Finally the 6000/6 billion bonus answer: but it is answered by asking a few questions. Is God eternal and thus not confined by space and time? When did time begin? On which day did God create earth? How long before rain began on earth? How long before river channels and other natural features developed on earth? When did God create the stars? When did time begin for humans? Is death related to time for Adam and Eve? What day were Adam and Eve created? What day did Adam and Eve eat of the forbidden fruit? What happened to Adam and Eve after eating the fruit, in other words, what was the curse? Death? So if death, aging, began after they ate the fruit, how long were they in the garden before they ate the fruit? Go read Genesis 1 and 2 again.”

      LOL, still struggling to respond huh? Read the genealogies, dummy! And then add the years and you will get 6,023 years to the present day.

      And by the way, each “day” in your god’s creation myth was a literal 24 hour day. That is why it says “morning” and “evening” for each day. I explained this in my science article already. Go back and read it.

      “The age of the universe or of the earth is not explicitly stated anywhere in the bible, nor can it be inferred. The only thing you can count on is when Adamโ€™s โ€œdeath clockโ€ began. Adamโ€™s death clock does not equal the age of the universe or of the earth.”

      I know, I know. There, there. It’s hard to admit your Bible is mostly a myth-making piece of garbage, but you need to grow up and accept it. Only 6,023 years have gone by since Adam, and he was created near the end of the creative process.

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  30. Back in the day when I was a D.A. (district attorney for those that don’t speak the lingo) all the judges would smile when I walked into court. The judge knew that I would prove my case beyond a reasonable doubt and lead to the conviction of the criminals…oops sorry I jumped the firing squad conclusion so to speak…conviction of the defendants, yeah that’s it…Anyways duriong final arguments to the jury I would say with an impassioned voice: “if it alludes, well then it colludes, and if it colludes then it denudes, and if it denudes it then includes everything and makes it twue, I swear, sahih bukhari, twue story, so dudes, you must convict! Don’t be derelict.
    It’s your alluding lie, you tell it!

    Festival/temple/in secret/in public so using that reasoning since there are more christians in the world than muslims does that mean that you are christian? Or at least 55% to 45%mohammedan? And by mohammedan I mean stone kissing, hepta-circumnavigating pagan idol warshipper.

    ==>Taquiyya is youz guys expertise. The azar bros lie as does mo and al lah. How come the jews have not been turned into apes and rats? How come muslims do not have donkey faces? How come the sun does not set in a pool of muddy water? Why do you say no compulsion but there is death if you leave? What was created first, the earth or the sky? Just a few examples of lies in the quran.<== try answering any one question, oh wait, you can't…that is what the profit said.

    The only myth in this blog is your scholarly dedication. You allude to anything and call it a conviction, same as your profit.
    Happy trails to you, until we meet again! Did you like your snickers? Say shalom to your athletic supporters!

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    1. Awww, is that all you could come up with in your frantic Googling to figure out how to save your sinful savior? Not only has your savior been exposed as a liar and criminal who destroyed other’s property, but you have been exposed as a liar for trying to hide your sinful savior’s sins! Ouch!!

      So what have we learned so far? The Bible alludes to a 6,000 year old flat earth. And then, snowflake’s sinful savior came after 4,000 years to live a life of sin so that he could die and not save poor snowflake from his own sins. Man, no one could have messed this up worse than snowflake’s god! LOL!!!

      Oh and snowflake, do you get any smegma down there? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  31. LoL you must be hijabs apprentice, claiming victory after losing. bwahahahaha. You are crazy, lol, I do believe the smegma done slid off yo cracka.

    FACTS for crackas:
    1.Mohammed received his revelation when some supernatural being attacked him in a cave at Hira.
    โ€œThe angel caught me forcefully and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymoreโ€
    Bukhari 9:111

    2. Mohammed was so traumatized by the event that he thought he was either insane or demon-possessed. โ€œPTSDโ€
    โ€œwoe is to me, poet or possessed โ€“ Never shal the Quraysh say this of me! I will go to the top of the mountain and throw myself down that I may kill myself and gain restโ€
    Ibn Ishaq pg.106

    3. Mohammed ordered the torture, enslavement, amputation, rape and beheadings of people.
    โ€œThe were caught and brought to him (the holy *profit). He commanded about them , and their hands and feet were cut off and their eyes were gouged and then they were thrown in the sun, until they diedโ€
    Sahih Muslim 4131

    4. Mohammed married and molested a 6 year old girl. He consummated the marriage when she was 9 years old.
    โ€œโ€ฆthe *profit married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years.โ€
    Sahih al Bukhari 7:62:64 & 65, 88

    5. Muslims believe all jews must be killed before the end of time.
    The only problem is that the muslims will get the moab instead.
    โ€œThe last day will not come about until muslims fight the jews, then the jews will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say โ€˜O muslims, O abdullah, there is a jew behind me, come and kill him.โ€
    Sahih Muslim 41:6981-6984
    Sahih al Bukhari 4:56:791

    6. Islam has a low apostasy rate because of the love that the *profit showed his followers.
    Oops wrong word, please change love for intimidation.
    Islam has a low apostasy rate because of the intimidation that the *profit showed his followers.
    โ€œโ€ฆthe *profit said, โ€˜if somebody (a muslim) discards his religion, kill himโ€
    Sahih al Bukhari 52:260, 84:57, 89:271
    Quran 4:89

    Boy I sure wanna be a muslim now, did your brow beaten friend backtrack? lol, don’t turn your back on him.

    7. The *profit says that even if you die you still owe him your alms so someone better pay up or else i won’t have walking around money. And if you want to consult with or have the profit pray for you, you gotta pay up. No pay, no pray.
    “My mother died unexpectedly; if she had been able to speak she would have given charity. Should I give charity on her behalf?” The Messenger of Allah said: “Yes.” So he gave charity on her behalf.”
    Sahih Vol. 4, Book 30, Hadith 3679

    “Once Allah’s Messenger (๏ทบ) came out while Bilal was accompanying him. He went towards the women thinking that they had not heard him (i.e. his sermon). So he preached them and ordered them to pay alms. (Hearing that) the women started giving alms; some donated their ear-rings, some gave their rings and Bilal was collecting them in the corner of his garment.”
    Sahih al-Bukhari 98

    9. *Profit = a ventriloquist false prophet that says “what’s yours is mine, and what’s mine was yours”
    Twue story Sahih al Bukhari 6:66
    More happy trails to you….snickers…supporters <==check em for what you want.

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    1. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Another one of Christian princess’ minions has suffered a massive beatdown, so what does the fungus do? Copy and paste!

      You’re going to hell because your savior was a sinner! But then again, your god was an ignorant Canaanite also!

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  32. Good afternoon, this is Lars Lars Pantsonfars reporting to you from Triggered Court stadium. The game has just concluded between FC Abdul and Trinity AC. We are speaking to coach abdullah:
    LARS: coach how do you assess your team’s home performance today on the pitch?
    ABDULLAH: Well Lars, the lads gave their best, we coulda, we shoulda, we woulda won the match, but for the nil – 3 deficit. I think some of the boys forgot to say inshallah before stepping on the pitch so the shaitan wrapped his tail around their feet.
    LARS: interesting?! coach, what does the rest of the season look like for your team?
    ABDULLAH: This game conveys and alludes to a great season full of success with more deficits like today, alhamdulillah!
    LARS: that’s the spirit coach, oops sorry, i mean that’s the shin coach! Any parting words for our viewers coach?
    ABDULLAH: We look forward to more beat downs this season with the same result for our athletic supporters.
    LARS: thank you for your candid demeanor coach. Now back to you at the studio, this has been Lars Lars Pantsonfars reporting from the pitch where team FC Abdul just took a donkey kong punch towards relegation as the coach cheers for more success like today’s

    LoL schlomo: it’s your lie you tell it…I see why you act like you do, you can’t help it, you’re dosed with indoctrination, if the bible had the same garbage as the quran, i’d try to protect it too, but i am not, i have the freedom to use my will and determine what is true on my own, all you have is a fence that keeps you in.

    It is because Jesus had no sin that I (and perhaps you) will not go to hell. Jesus is at the right hand of the Father now, and the profit is but bones in his grave where dogs urinate.

    You have yet to show up to any one of the princess tea times to discuss islam.
    Why is that?
    Are you an islamic scholar?
    Don’t like tea?
    Are you too smart for the princess?
    Or are you illiterate?
    Check out his broadcast on Youtube, bring your friends to watch, so you can show how mighty you are!
    Skype ==> DebateTV, look for his ID and dial him up, the princess awaits the beat down you allude but delude.

    “yea, let God be true, but every man a liar” …..

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    1. So snowflake is unable to save his sinful savior. Thus, snowflake is doomed to hell!

      Snowflake’s savior: I am not going to the festival. You guys go.
      Savior’s brothers: OK, see ya!
      Snowflake’s savior: Hmmm, you know what? I think I will go to the festival, but in secret so no one see me. Then I will know what people are saying about me. (Proceeds to go to the festival)

      (A little while later)….

      Snowflake’s savior: Well, I think I have spent enough time here. Now, I think I will go up to the temple and preach. (Proceeds to the temple)

      The End.

      Moral of the story: Snowflake’s savior lied to his brothers. He did the opposite of what he said he was going to do. Ergo, he lied.

      “God is not a human that he should lie, not a human being that he should change his mind.”

      OUCH!!

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  33. OOUCH??? Bwahahaha…**it’s your lie , you tell it**…youre just like the coach for the donkeys, lying to yourself, tsk, tsk and a coward to boot. You can stay safe here in your hira cave and let the other 3 stooges take turns squeezing you…

    I don’t have to “save my savior” (**see above**) as he will save me:

    “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God….That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit….That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life…For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”
    “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

    What will your profit do for you? He will give you power, money, sex, whatever you want. Including death.

    62:5 The likeness of those who were charged with the Taurat, then they did not observe it, is as the likeness of the ass bearing books, evil is the likeness of the people who reject the communications of Allah; and Allah does not guide the unjust people.

    You carry your quran and it’s lies (hadiths) like a donkey, but fail to investigate it as vigoroulsy as you investigate the bible. Or may be you have read it and are ashamed of what is actually in it and thus have to lie your donkey off! Either way….
    Happy trails FC Abduls say shalom to the other donkeys, shempdullah, jockostrap and stew.

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    1. LOL!! Now, now, snowflake. Don’t try to deflect from your savior’s lies. Let’s keep going. Let’s make it worse for your savior!

      We have already caught him in the first lie. He went to that festival in secret. Here’s another lie.

      “But the other criminal rebuked him. โ€œDonโ€™t you fear God,โ€ he said, โ€œsince you are under the same sentence? 41 We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.โ€

      Then he said, โ€œJesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.[d]โ€

      Jesus answered him, โ€œTruly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.โ€” (Luke 23;4-43)

      “Truly”? Where did Jesus go after he died? Let’s see.

      “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, โ€˜I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.” (John 20:17)

      So Jesus had not yet ascended to heaven. The poor criminal must have been wondering where he was all that time!

      So your savior lied a SECOND time! This keeps getting worse and worse for your and your savior! LOL!!!

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  34. Well aren’t you just so precious, still trying, like a good ole lil donkey.
    You’re the lil donkey that shoulda, woulda, coulda!
    Your hermaphroditic shaitan is proud of you, Hee Haaw! Now, squeeze your legs together! Atta boy, I knew you had it in you, or at the very least, now you do!

    Where does the spirit go to after the body dies? You don’t know.
    Does the dead body or the spirit have a concept of time after the death of the body? You don’t know.
    These questions and more will be answered just as soon as you die. Wanna find out? ***Now you know what to do!

    Which destiny have you chosen as portrayed in Luke 23:39-42?

    39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.

    40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?

    41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.

    42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

    Which one of the two thieves are you and your donkey bruvs?

    It’s a fact jack, that 10 outta 10 donkeys die. When will you die? It’s never too late mate, unless you’re room temp, then, it will be too late to change your choice.

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    1. It just keeps getting worse and worse for snowflake and his sinful savior!

      “Where does the spirit go to after the body dies? You donโ€™t know.
      Does the dead body or the spirit have a concept of time after the death of the body? You donโ€™t know.
      These questions and more will be answered just as soon as you die. Wanna find out? ***Now you know what to do! ”

      LOL!!! So another non-response and more idiotic ramblings. I see snowflake really has no clue how to rescue his sinful savior.

      Your savior told the thief that he would be with him in heaven today! Let’s read it again:

      “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”

      They were both on the verge of death. The thief was assured that he would be with Jesus on that day. But where did Jesus go? Certainly not to heaven, because he was in his tomb for 3 days! And John only makes it worse when he has the savior declare that he YET to ascend to his father in heaven! So this exposes your savior’s lie. The poor thief must have been feeling a bit let down! It reminds me of that Family Guy spoof of the Shawshank Redemption! ROFTL!!

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  35. That is the whole point schlomo.
    If you are the expert on death and the spirit, well maybe not spirit because after all Al Lah does not have a spirit, what are you thinking when you’re dead? Are you thinking? I thought the EEG and the EKG flatline at that time! You claim to be a big science buff from the miracles of science in the Dhikr, lol. How about you find some empirical evidence for what happens to your spirit and or time when you are dead? Bring back some first hand knowledge eh? Your big claim requires big proof, not just spitting up cow dung. The profit said his body would not rot after death, lol, they had to bury him after 3 days cuz he stunk so bad. All those gases produced during decomposition bloated his body until it looked fat as a whale. Or is that fat as a donkey?
    2:89 and 5:43-45 shame on you, you lying donkey. Both the old testament and the new testament are perfectly valid books, look at your Dhikr. What say you? Not valid? Then bring one that is valid, you double lying donkey. I will give you ten years, but remember, 10 outta 10 donkeys die. So hurry or you will be the wrong thief on the cross.

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    1. Still unable to stick to the topic, eh? Your god lied on two occasions and destroyed someone’s property on one. That makes him a sinner, stupid. Ergo, you are still in your sins (according to your religion) and are going to hell. Your god failed. Thus, he cannot be God.

      Back to lie #2. Your god promised the thief that he would be in paradise with him the same day of their deaths. This did not happen because your god did not even ascend until much later. So the poor thief was left waiting around for your god to fulfill his promise, just like Peter was waiting for Cleveland. LOL!!

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  36. Shalom schlomo,
    It appears that you take the crucifixion and the resurrection as a belief you find to be true, seeing that you argue from that point of view-Luke and John. Therefore, thank you, thank you for saying shahada to christianity, lol, welcome as a brother in christ. Now go take the good person test and see where you are so you can find out where to go, lol…..

    Go out and tell other people the good news!!!

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    1. HAHAHAHA, still so desperate? I don’t believe in your so-called “scripture”, you dolt! I am merely showing how stupid your religion is! It cannot even provide a logical and consistent story about your god. You say he was “sinless”. Your scripture says otherwise. Therefore, you are going to hell according to your religion. Why would any reasonable person follow your religion? It makes no sense! It’s like a bad movie where the plot goes no where and you just want to walk out of the movie theater.

      I am already telling people the good news!!! Christianity is a false religion! Good news!

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    1. stewjo004

      @ triarianiindah

      Salamualakum wa rahma tu lahi wa barakatu.

      Hi. Sorry for the late response. Welcome to the blog. We try to be interactive with the audience around here so if you have any topics you’re interested in, let us know.

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