An excellent and eye-opening video. The amazing prophecies of Muhammad (peace be upon him) are being fulfilled before our very eyes. I don’t necessarily agree with the second half of the video, specially regarding the conspiracy theories about the “Illuminati” but the first half is certainly amazing, alhamdulillah.
Many of the prophecies mentioned in the video are from a hadith in the collection of Al-Tabarani, the famous hadith scholar from the 10th century. It is curious that this hadith has been considered “weak” by most scholars. However, the fact that the prophecies are coming true lends credence to the view that this is an authentic hadith of the prophet and that he actually said it. The hadith states that men will marry men and women will marry women in the end times. This is happening as we speak. Gay marriage is a recent phenomenon, and would have been unthinkable even 10 years ago. And yet, this hadith prophesied this phenomenon more than 1000 years ago. Surely, this hadith must therefore be authentic, even though it was rated “weak” by scholars as a matter of caution.
Brother Stew, what are your views on this?
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Compare the impressive accuracy of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) to the unclear, vague, and at times obviously false prophecies in the Bible. There is no comparison!
https://quranandbibleblog.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/prophecies-in-the-holy-scriptures-word-of-god-or-folly-of-man-part-i/
https://quranandbibleblog.wordpress.com/2015/01/15/prophecies-in-the-holy-scriptures-word-of-god-or-folly-of-man-part-ii/
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@ QB
I haven’t had a chance to watch the whole video but I’ll make general comments. Please take a note that I have only done basic intros to hadith (history, basic rules, etc.) and it’s easily my weakest subject which is why I usually refrain from commentary on them.
The main thing with weak hadith from my memory is first off how is it weak? Are there liars in the chain, do we have people missing or are unknown, etc. Depending on the nature of its weakness it can be dismissed because of that. HOWEVER, a basic rule some scholars use in a situation like this is a weak hadith CAN be used for encouragement as long as it’s based on established things. For example, if there was this weak hadith that said something like: “If you make your wudu you will get 100 good deeds” or something. Wudu is based on authentic and established things in Islam and so this weak hadith is not creating some new ruling. Now if it said: “If you make your wudu AND THEN you jump up and down proclaiming the shahada you will get 100 good deeds” it is thoroughly rejected and not used because it’s not based on anything established.
So I don’t see anything intrinsically wrong with using these particular weak hadith in this situation because no rulings are being made from them. It’s simply a reminder to the Muslims that the Day of Judgment is always moving towards us and the truthfulness of the Prophet (ﷺ). However, let’s say we reject them let’s all remember these authentic ahadith:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
A man asked the Prophet (ﷺ) “When will the Hour be established O Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ)?” The Prophet (ﷺ) . said, “What have you prepared for it?”… (Bukhari)
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/78/197
Anas b. Malik reported that a person asked Allah’s Apostle (ﷺ):
When would the Last Hour come? Thereupon Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) kept quiet for a while. Then looked at a young boy in his presence belonging to the tribe of Azd Shanu’a and he said: If this boy lives he would not grow very old till the Last Hour would come to you…”
https://sunnah.com/muslim/54/174
Basically, they mean even if we don’t see the signs in our life we will still eventually return to Allah for judgment. One thing that is more than likely for everyone on this blog is that for us the Day of Judgement will in 100 years because its unlikely any of us will live past that.
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Yeah, I definitely agree that there are numerous sahih hadiths on the subject and they are full of wisdom. My point about hadith in Tabarani is that it is clearly very accurate, and thus the chances of it being a forged hadith are practically zero. Even though there is a weakness in the chain, the fact that it has been confirmed by modern events means that it must have been an authentic statement of the prophet.
The hadith specifically is considered weak because of one narrator: Sayf ibn Miskeen. According to scholars:
“Sayf ibn Miskeen was declared a weak reporter by scholars of Hadeeth. Al-Haythami may Allaah have mercy upon him cited this hadeeth and commented on it, saying, “It was cited by At-Tabaraani in Al-Awsat and Al-Kabeer, and its chain of narration includes Sayf ibn Miskeen, who is a weak reporter.” [Majma‘ Az-Zawaa’id]
Al-Haafith Ibn Hajar may Allaah have mercy upon him wrote about Sayf ibn Miskeen, “An old man from Basrah who narrates Maqloobaat (inverted ahaadeeth; in whose text or chain of narration a change has taken place by substituting one letter for another or by reversing the order of a word or sentence in the text) and fabricated reports.” [Lisaan Al-Mizaan]
Ad-Daaraqutni may Allaah have mercy upon him said, “He is not a strong reporter.” [Al-‘Ilal]
Ibn Hibbaan may Allaah have mercy upon him wrote, “He narrates Maqloobaat and fabricated reports, and his narrations, though few, cannot be used as evidence because they contradict the reports of trustworthy reporters.” [Al-Majrooheen] ” (http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=343078).
But the fact that his hadith has been confirmed by modern events makes the weakness of this particular narrator null and void, at least in this case.
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Stew, how’s your crucifixion article coming?
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I want to be careful in what I say because as I said I’m not strong in hadith. But this appears to me to fall underneath what I said. We have a complete chain but this one person in it is iffy so if my memory serves this hadith can be used for encouragement and supporting evidence. Allah hu alim Sayf ibn Miskeen could’ve been telling the truth in this particular case but we have to be consistent in our methodology. So again, it is possible the Prophet (ﷺ) said this but we can never say 100% for sure and then were being like Christians in their methodology.
As for my crucifixion article, sorry I’ve been busy at work. The body is more or less done I just had to do some more research about a particular passage I was refuting.
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It’s possible that Sayf accurately narrated this particular hadith, while making mistakes in others. The hadith scholars were cautious, and rightfully so. But as I said, since we have proof that this hadith has been confirmed by modern events, I don’t see any reason to be be overly cautious at this point, at least with this particular hadith. The evidence is overwhelming that the hadith is accurate. How else could it have made accurate predictions? Compared to the Bible, this one hadith is much more impressive. What does that say for the Bible if a “weak” hadith has so much more credibility?
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as for false prophecies, man, christ truly was a false prophet as portrayed in the gospels :
False prophecies:
Of course. The word genea (“race / generation”) in Matthew 24:34 can mean lots of things. But context always determines a word’s meaning. Jesus is speaking to his disciples, and instructing them to take care because it will happen any moment and they need to be ready (e.g. Mt. 24:3-33: “when YOU TOO see all these things” you will know it’s time; likewise the parallel passage in Mark 13 and Luke 21). So he obviously meant in their lifetime. So he obviously meant generation, not race. Likewise he did not say “the Jewish race,” he says “this very genea,” hê genea autê; and he said this genea would end (heôs, until), yet afterward they (Jews themselves) and the saved (also many Jews) would survive and be rewarded—so he clearly cannot have meant the Jewish race.
This is all the more supported by other apocalyptic verses placed in the mouth of Jesus where he clearly indicates the disciples themselves would live to see Jesus and the angels descending from heaven in power to end the world (e.g. Mk. 8:38-9:1); indeed, Jesus explicitly says the priest presiding at his trial would himself see this: Mt. 26:64; Mk. 14:62.
So indeed, he is a failed prophet. But really, it’s always been false prophecy trying to be fixed. Jeremiah’s prophesy of the end didn’t occur when he said it would, so Daniel was forged to reinterpret that failed prophecy to get a date in the 2nd century B.C., but that failed to occur, so the Qumran sect tried reinterpreting Daniel to get a date in the 1st B.C. or A.D., and that failed, so Christians reinterpreted that failed prophecy to get it to be in the 1st A.D., and then believed Jesus told them it would happen in their lifetimes (e.g. 1 Thess. 4:15-17), but that failed, the war instead happened and still the end didn’t come, so Mark invented yet another new thing for Jesus to say, extending the end to the end of a generation, which other authors used as well, since that bought them a lot of time (it was commonly believed people could live a maximum of 120 years, so the last person to die who was alive in the 30s A.D. would be assumed to die in the mid-2nd century. By then editions of the NT were widely circulating and it was much harder to get new rewrites, i.e. new Gospels or Gospels with too radical changes, accepted, so they started spinning it with apologetics instead, to get the meaning to be other than the words themselves said. Just as the forgers of Daniel did with Jeremiah, and the Dead Sea sect did with Daniel, and the Christians likewise did with Daniel, then their revelations, then finally their Gospels.
https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/14539
jesus telling the high priest that he will see the son of man is no different than telling his pals, “going before you to galilee, THERE YOU will SEE him”
“you will SEE…..”
yes, jesus of the gospels thought he was coming back in the high priests life time.
that second coming was TIED to the resurrection.
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No matter how much Christians protest, the New Testament actually agrees and is consistent with itself on this issue only. Normally, the NT is very inconsistent, but on the issue of the end of the world, it is consistent in saying that it was near. It was supposed to happen in the 1st century, and didn’t.
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if muslims can use the nt as proof that jesus made false predictions, this could be a powerful dawah tool in convincing christians that nt is preaching a christ which is a false christ and islam is preaching a christ which is the first century jewish christ.
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hey paulus and joel,
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These pagans think that th e prophecies in matthew were written YESTERDAY
lol
Sorry , they weren’t.
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Hey, guys kind of a cool little thing I found while searching for information on the Second Fitna. Here are some authentic hadith on the Prophets(saw) prophecies that have come true:
Click to access predictions-in-the-quran-and-sunnah-part-23.pdf
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