As-salaam alaikum! I introduced the Christian fanatic and anti-Islam bigot “madman” on the blog a short while ago. “Madman” admitted that the laws of the Tanakh, such as execution for adultery and homosexuality, are still in effect and that Christians must follow and enforce these laws. In the continuation of that discussion, the topic switched to the Sabbath laws and the laws concerning menstruation. Below is the latest exchange between “madman” and myself on brother Paul Williams’ blog “BloggingTheology”. See the full discussion on the blog.
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“As I said, there is no reason why every single case of a Sabbath breaker has to be recorded, stupid. ”
To prove that the Sabbath law was a hard law to keep it would have to record a lot more than one case out of the whole nation on one day, stupid.
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LOL, no moron. To prove that the Sabbath law was a hard law to keep, all one has to do is show the Christian attitude towards it. Since when do Christians keep the Sabbath law, stupid?
Poor madman has once again entered into his “ignore all questions” mode. Why don’t you answer my questions?
1. Are Christian husbands prohibited from having sexual intercourse with their wives? And must the wives be separated for 7 days as the Tanakh states?
2. Why weren’t Gentile converts required to keep the Sabbath, you fool? Do you keep the Sabbath? I would love to hear your Sabbath routine.Like
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Jews go in to the synagogue. Christians go in to the church on their sabbath day. Where is the fundamental difference? They both have a day of rest for worship and contemplation of God. Only Islam can be so evil as to make a curse out of this practice.
The sabbath was named as such in the commandment which is evidence that is was already being practiced because the people were already familiar with the concept.
Faiz : “1. Are Christian husbands prohibited from having sexual intercourse with their wives? And must the wives be separated for 7 days as the Tanakh states?”
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The clean and unclean laws were only for the time of the temple. Exception being the animals which were offered straight after the Fall as burnt offerings.
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LOL, this is the best you could do after disappearing for so long? This is all you could find?
There is a HUGE difference is the way Jews and Christians treat the Sabbath. Since when do Christians stop working? Only a moron like you can be so obtuse as to not see the difference! That is the evil fruit of Christianity. It turns people into buffoons!
So why were Christians so quick to ditch the difficult parts of the Sabbath? It seems you people like to pay lip-service only. It’s like having your cake and eating it too.
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The clean and unclean laws were only for the time of the temple. Exception being the animals which were offered straight after the Fall as burnt offerings.”
LOL, you better go back and do some more frantic research to answer the question. Obviously, the last few weeks of searching did not get you the right answers!
Where is it stated in your Bible that “clean and unclean laws” were for the time of the temple. First of all, according to Ezekiel, the temple is supposed to be rebuilt and all the laws to be reinstated. This falsifies Christianity from the start.
Second, why would Christians be allowed to defile themselves with menstrual blood while Jews were not? What kind of sick religion do you follow?
Your answers showcase the central hypocrisy of Christianity. You pick and choose based on whim what laws to follow and what laws to ignore. Something that is “unclean” doesn’t suddenly become “clean”. In any case, the NT does not say that the laws concerning menstruation no longer apply. It only says that the DIETARY laws no longer apply. But even then, BLOOD was still forbidden!
“As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality” (Acts 21:25).
LOL, poor madman gets exposed again for being a moron!
So if consuming blood is still forbidden, then what about touching MENSTRUAL blood? You have been badly refuted, madman. Try again at answering the question! See you in a couple of weeks, yes? 😉
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“Since when do Christians stop working? Only a moron like you can be so obtuse as to not see the difference! That is the evil fruit of Christianity. It turns people into buffoons!”
Of course they stop working on the Sabbath. Which Christians work on the Sabbath?
Didn’t Christ rest from his works on the day of his resurrection? Having created a new creation.
Faiz said: “Where is it stated in your Bible that “clean and unclean laws” were for the time of the temple. First of all, according to Ezekiel, the temple is supposed to be rebuilt and all the laws to be reinstated. This falsifies Christianity from the start.”
The temple was rebuilt but not Ezekiel’s temple. It never will be. God will never build a temple made from bricks and mortar again. It is evident that Ezekiels temple is symbolical because of the descriptions of water flowing out of it.
You lean towards literalism too much when you are interpreting prophecy. You don’t allow for symbolism because you are agenda driven.
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Rev 21 v 22: And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Faiz “Where is it stated in your Bible that “clean and unclean laws” were for the time of the temple.”
Faiz “Second, why would Christians be allowed to defile themselves with menstrual blood while Jews were not? What kind of sick religion do you follow?”
The things that made the Jews unclean were symbolic of sin to show that man had to purify himself to approach a holy God and he had to separate himself from sin to live a holy life. You are blinded by your literalism which comes from the pagan superstition that physical contact defiles because of the nature of the thing itself, with which one comes into contact with, and not the thing that it symbolizes. This was just a temporary state of affairs which Islam perpetuates because of it’s supremacy value.
““As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality” (Acts 21:25).”
This is just the law of not causing the weaker brother, in this case the Jews, to be offended which was only temporarily of necessity because of the temple rites to which the Gentiles were not subject.
The Jews did not know what liberty they had until the NT was completed. God allowed a period of transition under which the Jews lived under both covenants. Gentile Christians had to be sensitive to the Jews living under this tension between the old and the new. Progressive revelation rears its ugly head once again I fear. The needles stuck for you guys.
Menstrual blood seems to be an irrelevance with which you are obsessed!
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Let’s see what madman managed to scrounge in his desperation…
“Of course they stop working on the Sabbath. Which Christians work on the Sabbath?”
LOL, how about virtually all of them from the very earliest times? Here is what Tertullian said about observing the sabbath:
“It follows, accordingly, that, in so far as the abolition of carnal circumcision and of the old law is demonstrated as having been consummated at its specific times, so also the observance of the Sabbath is demonstrated to have been temporary” (http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/ecf/003/0030185.htm).
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“Didn’t Christ rest from his works on the day of his resurrection? Having created a new creation.”
LOL, this just shows how confused and contradictory your Bible really is!
“The temple was rebuilt but not Ezekiel’s temple. It never will be. God will never build a temple made from bricks and mortar again. It is evident that Ezekiels temple is symbolical because of the descriptions of water flowing out of it.”
Hahahaha, you moron! I already schooled you on this months ago and you ran away. There is nothing “symbolic” about Ezekiel’s temple, you lying demon! The flowing waters are also literal descriptions. Ezekiel talks about fishermen catching plentiful fish. It’s a very detailed description of the rebuilding of the temple and the observances of all festivals and laws. It even reestablished the law which forbid foreigners from entering the temple grounds!
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“You lean towards literalism too much when you are interpreting prophecy. You don’t allow for symbolism because you are agenda driven.”
Aww, you’re breaking my heart!
You lean towards conservatism too much when you are interpreting prophecy. You don’t allow for literalism because you are agenda driven.
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“The things that made the Jews unclean were symbolic of sin to show that man had to purify himself to approach a holy God and he had to separate himself from sin to live a holy life. You are blinded by your literalism which comes from the pagan superstition that physical contact defiles because of the nature of the thing itself, with which one comes into contact with, and not the thing that it symbolizes. This was just a temporary state of affairs which Islam perpetuates because of it’s supremacy value.”
Yaaaawn…oh sorry I got sleepy from all the repeated Christian BS.
Is this the best you can do? I demolished your hypocritical cherry-picking of the Jewish law and exposed your fraudulent piety. You are a perfect example of a brainwashed hypocrite.
“This is just the law of not causing the weaker brother, in this case the Jews, to be offended which was only temporarily of necessity because of the temple rites to which the Gentiles were not subject.”
LOL, here we go again. A modern Christian is reinterpreting the commands of the apostles because they are too inconvenient for him to follow. Christian hypocrisy is exposed yet again.
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Where is it stated that this was “temporary”, you dufus? Are you saying that Christians are allowed to eat food sacrificed to idols? Or to engage in sexual immorality? Let’s read what the apostles said once again:
“As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.”
Are you picking and choosing what parts to follow, yet again? You just can’t escape the temptation, can you? What would Jesus (pbuh) say in this case, I wonder? Oh yeah, I know:
“Get behind me Satan!”
Poor madman…you’re nothing but Satan’s lapdog. Repent before it is too late.
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Oops, forgot to respond to the last parts of madman’s train-wreck response:
“The Jews did not know what liberty they had until the NT was completed. God allowed a period of transition under which the Jews lived under both covenants. Gentile Christians had to be sensitive to the Jews living under this tension between the old and the new. Progressive revelation rears its ugly head once again I fear. The needles stuck for you guys.”
ROTFL!!! Oh, this is too funny! Madman wants the Jews to have liberty! But the Jews would feel that madman is too liberal and a blasphemer!
The Tanakh stated that the laws of Moses were for all time. This directly contradicts your asinine claim and also completely demolishes your religion. The Tanakh does not agree with the NT. Thus, Christianity is falsified.
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The Jewish law was very strict in terms of menstruation. Husband and wife could not even touch each other during the wife’s menstrual period. But along comes the Christians and say that they don’t have to follow this law, even though there is NOTHING in the NT that says so. There is no “progressive revelation” about this! Show me where your NT says that the laws of menstruation no longer apply!
“Menstrual blood seems to be an irrelevance with which you are obsessed!”
Hahahaha, running away again, huh? You got badly humiliated, so now you are trying to push this issue to the side because it is “irrelevant”. But too bad for you. It is actually a very relevant issue and it concerns every Christian. You have done a poor job of explaining why the law no longer applies. You have provided no proof from your Bible, only your own pathetic opinions. Show me where it is stated that menstrual blood no longer defiles a person. I already showed you that consuming the blood from animals is still forbidden. You tried to dance your way around that too, only to be exposed as a liar and hypocrite. So if consuming animal blood is still forbidden, then why would touching menstrual blood (which is blood mixed with parts of a woman’s uterus) also not be forbidden? You are sick, sick person, madman!
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“The things that made the Jews unclean were symbolic of sin to show that man had to purify himself to approach a holy God and he had to separate himself from sin to live a holy life. ”
the pagan guy is COMPLETELY REINTERPRETING his “holy” bible and he have no shame in doing so. yhwh said “don’t eat pig”
this is a LAW from the mind of yhwh
when traffic law says “don’t cross RED lights” one still does not cross even if it is SAFE TO do so. this piglet of krist is TRYING to read into text SYMBOLISM when yhwh wanted LITERAL OBEDIENCE
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“The things that made the Jews unclean were symbolic of sin…”
This is nonsensical: If a Christian believes that God composed the Torah, then it was God who said that the Pig was forbidden, but it was never considered “symbolic of sin” or a metaphor. This is just an attempt to reinterpret the Hebrew bible in a way that would make it more compatible with Christianity, but it simply was not written with Christianity in mind.
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“You are blinded by your literalism which comes from the pagan superstition that physical contact defiles…”
that’s jesus’ VIEW of female DOGS(gentiles) who EAT OFF the floor while CHILDREN sit at the table. (take good note that her daughter does not even get a touch like all jewish women got touched).
yes, in the priestly worldview it CAN be argued that physical contact does DEFILE and defilement will be spread to each other and to holy yhwh himself.
that’s why defilement is cleaned by using “disinfectant” like blood, smoke etc
the question is , why did “god” have problem with dead bodies , pig , period blood etc etc , when he himself would come down with excrement in his backside and breaking wind in holy of holy ?
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ken temple is attempting the provocation game here
the poor sod is making me think i am persecuting him lol
https://callingchristians.com/2018/01/29/is-the-bible-a-requirement-for-salvation/#comment-6075
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